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TSD Logistics Fuel Program


I was quite surprised that a Search for "TSD" came back with nothing on this Forum. I learned about TSD on another forum maybe a month ago. TSD is a fuel discount program, mainly OTR drivers, which, honestly, cost me nothing and the discount is significant. Their program is open to anyone who buys diesel. I fueled at a Love's in Hawthorne FL a couple of days ago. The posted price was $2.43 (diesel). I paid $1.67! No strings attached. Look up TSD Logistics and apply for a card - free. Mine arrived in about a week. You will have to link a bank account to the card. That is how you reimburse TSD. Activate the card and download their phone App. The App shows you stations accepting the TSD card in the area where you are located (uses your phone's GPS) and the discounted price you will eventually pay. Plug in the card at the pump (truck lanes only) and fill up. Get your full price receipt and drive away. Within a day you will receive an email with what you owe TSD. A day or two later they will debit your linked bank account. I have used the card once. Advertised undiscounted total cost at $2.43/gal was $53.90. TSD debited my account $38.43. That is a 28% discount per gallon. If this thing continues we will probably make it to the west coast this summer. 



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I also have the TSD fleet card. You will find that an additional 10% of the savings will be deducted from your bank account as this is the administration fee to use the TSD Logistics fleet card. You are being added to their fleet. TSD decided to add RVers as a way to increase their own fleet and therefore obtain a more competitive price per gallons of fuel for their trucks. Although you can purchase DEF and other products on the card, these items are not discounted.You can purchase fuel at Love's Travel Stops, Petro and TA stations. You can no longer use the card at Pilot/Flying J locations.

One reason why some have decided not to apply for the card is because you are required to provide your social security number on the application. TSD states that this number is only used in the instance where funds are not available in your bank account and they need to take action to collect. It is impossible to  assure that confidential information is not hacked or misused, as this has already occurred through other supposedly secure company servers.

I have used the card several times over the last four months with no issues and I agree the savings is significant, especially at Love's. The first time was extremely slow on TSD's end to get the statement via email as well as for them to deduct the amount from the bank account, but I believe this must have been because they needed to complete setup on their end. It has been much faster since then.

Safe travels and continued discounts.



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Sorry, but that won't happen for this family.  There are already too many "entities" that can be hacked for personal information.  Regardless of the "supposed" discount one gets for buying some fuel, if someone were to hack the TDS company and get the personal information, including the bank account, one could lose a heck of a lot more than they would save.

Personally, I'd have to caution everyone about this program, especially with knowing so little about the company and its security.

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Terry and Jo wrote:

Sorry, but that won't happen for this family.  There are already too many "entities" that can be hacked for personal information.  Regardless of the "supposed" discount one gets for buying some fuel, if someone were to hack the TDS company and get the personal information, including the bank account, one could lose a heck of a lot more than they would save.

Personally, I'd have to caution everyone about this program, especially with knowing so little about the company and its security.

Terry


Thousands of truckers have used the TSD EFS fleet fuel program for a long time, Terry, without any issues. BTW, they are more than just a fuel program. They are a logistics company where drivers can find and schedule loads and runs and manage other parts of their business. We've had and used a TSD fuel card since sometime last year and love it. It works everywhere except Pilot/Flying J (who recently withdrew from the TSD program because they saw it as competition for their Good Sam RV card) and the discounts are many times better than the Good Sam/PFJ card. We now avoid PFJ if possible and use the TSD card at the other truck stop chains. 

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OK.  I'll repeat myself.  There is no way that anyone is getting our bank account number (and SSAN) and being "authorized" to withdraw from that account.  NO WAY!!  Not even if we were to set up a "special" account only for fuel.

Only the wife or myself, or in a pinch, our youngest son will have that authority.  I don't care that thousands of truckers have been using it.  Besides, in some of the places we've been, none of those stations mention in the original post even exist.  I've even seen some places with no separate "truck fuel pumps."

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there is always those that are non believers, but I will take the Great savings that this program provides us. all of the thousands of people that have signed up cant all be wrong. with a savings of 40 cents up to a dollar per gallon savings I will take my chances

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Quite frankly I don’t see any “chances”, but then again it’s just my opinion. Like many others I used a bank account separate from my regular bank accounts. I still had an account from my working days that I used to cover reimbursable expenses. Yes I gave up my social security number, but for years that was out there being used. It wasn’t until probably 15 yrs or so ago when it changed.

As what was stated, the savings are well worth the minimal risk. My 2¢.

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I wonder how much discount you're going to get with oil plunging right now. Yeah its temporary. But the card doesn't discount taxes only the fuel. Maybe I'll wait until we are on the other side of this dark patch we are going through. I'll re-evaluate then. JHMO.



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Diesel where I am at is $2.29. I refueled last week using this program. The price after discount was $1.51. TSD then gets 10% of the total dollar savings. So if you save $35, TSD gets $3.50. I do not know if they figure the discounts on a set amount or by percentage. Each station has its own amount of discount which you can look up on their (TDS's) website.

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Rickl, exactly what I did.

I fuel up. I am sent an email for the ACH draft they created. I move that amount into the empty dedicated account. They debit the account.  Not all that abstract to comprehend the dedicated account idea. T&J, are you going to tell us you receive a mailed, paper, Social Security check not wanting some else having access to a bank account? We are now into the 3rd decade of the 21st century. Your trepidation is more suited for the dawn of the internet/digital age 30 years ago.  



-- Edited by Friz on Thursday 23rd of April 2020 09:33:58 AM

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I think his concern has less to do with the technological aspect and more to do with identity theft issues.  Providing your SSN to a company does introduce one more spot where an unscrupulous employee could compromise your identity.  I use the program so I decided it was worth the risk.  I would have preferred they didn't require it.



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Friz wrote:

 

Rickl, exactly what I did.

I fuel up. I am sent an email for the ACH draft they created. I move that amount into the empty dedicated account. They debit the account.  Not all that abstract to comprehend the dedicated account idea. T&J, are you going to tell us you receive a mailed, paper, Social Security check not wanting some else having access to a bank account? We are now into the 3rd decade of the 21st century. Your trepidation is more suited for the dawn of the internet/digital age 30 years ago.  



-- Edited by Friz on Thursday 23rd of April 2020 09:33:58 AM


 Actually, our accounts are with USAA, and they've been excellent for a banking source.  Our SSAN and our pension benefits are always direct deposited, but I'd bet that if either government (we retired from the state) entity tried to withdraw funds, USAA would put a stop to that immediately.

And yes, as I mentioned in my first post, I'd be concerned with TSD getting hacked and someone else getting our information.  If you think it can't happen, then you have more confidence in their security that I would have.  It isn't that I wouldn't trust TSD, but that I'd be concerned with their security.  And, that includes internal security with their employees.

The state agency that the wife and I retired from is the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation.  She worked in the IT division and regularly saw hacker try to access our systems.  I worked in the criminal records division and saw quite a few cases of identity theft and fraud.  The fraud was generally an employee of some company that was embezzling funds.  Sometimes they embezzled the company and sometimes the clients of the company.

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Just my 2 cents. As far as originating transactions are concerned TSD, along with their bank are on the hook for any fraudulent transactions so I really don't think there's much risk there. As to your Social Security Number getting stolen, it probably already has been. As far as you bank account number goes, anyone to whom you write a check already has that number so it's not secret. I would be 100 times more concerned about using my credit card at a restaurant where they take your card and swipe it in the back than I would having someone debit my bank account. Just an old banker thinking out loud, but the security around ACH transactions if light years ahead of credit cards. Not just anyone gets access to that system and even when they do it's always through a bank. Do what you will, but I don't lose any sleep over ACH transactions.

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If Terry has concerns, as I do, let him express them without attack. Do as you wish. Take the risks you wish to take.

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LarryW21 wrote:

If Terry has concerns, as I do, let him express them without attack. Do as you wish. Take the risks you wish to take.


 I didn't think I attacked anyone in particular.  I merely expressed concern about the system.

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Terry and Jo wrote:
LarryW21 wrote:

If Terry has concerns, as I do, let him express them without attack. Do as you wish. Take the risks you wish to take.


 I didn't think I attacked anyone in particular.  I merely expressed concern about the system.

Terry


Terry, 

I think Larry was talking about people attacking you.

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Not you Terry! I was concerned about the posts responding to you.

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OK.  Sorry if I misread Larry's post.  Since he first stated my name and then the comment about attacking, it confused me.

That happens to folks as they get older, you know.

And, just for the record, I didn't really get the sense that others were "attacking" me, just that they had different experiences.

And as I had stated before, a lot of places we have been haven't had those kinds of truck stops and such.  If there was one in the area, I'm not sure that the drive to the fuel place would compensate for the "savings."

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The TSD fuel program is a great tool for RVers to save money on their fuel purchase, I received an email from them yesterday saying that they had more than 21,000 Rvers signed up. I know there are nonbelievers but I like saving money.

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