4G and Voice Booster - RV-Dreams Community Forum

reubenray · RV-Dreams Community Member

RE: 4G and Voice Booster

Lucky Mike · RV-Dreams Family Member

yes it will if you are using it for Wifi for extended periods......the base and antenna port are part of the heat sink...

Defiant · RV-Dreams Family Member

I've been looking at the Wilson DT 4G and the Wilson Mobile 4G, the DT has adjustable gain and yes it has the directional antenna ,but we will only be used while parked you just aim it in the direction of a tower ,and you ask "how in the heck do I know where a tower is " just so happens there is an "app for that" . I like the sleek also but by the time I purchase a new antenna and ac power pack is the 23db gain on average worth it ? Or do I spend the extra $$$ for a 50 to 60db gain and that I can adjust the out put ? We are still researching on which way to go

Jack Mayer · RV-Dreams Family Member

50-60 db gain? I seriously doubt it and I've been testing these devices for 10+ years. But, since I have not tested THAT one I'll just remain skeptical and look for a good test report. Not a manufacturers claim...but an actual test.

Technomadia · RV-Dreams Family Member

Defiant wrote:
"how in the heck do I know where a tower is " just so happens there is an "app for that" .

Which app are you using for this? Last time we looked into it, the only public database of towers was rather sparse. We've not yet found an app or source of tower information that is comprehensive. We'd love to build that functionally into our 'Coverage?' app (which overlaps the major carrier's maps so we RVers can plan our travels around where there is supposed to be signal).

Lucky Mike · RV-Dreams Family Member

this is the one I use Cherie....I hope it helps !......They use FCC licensing for the towers locations

http://find.mapmuse.com/interest/cell-towers

www.antennasearch.com/

-- Edited by Lucky Mike on Wednesday 4th of June 2014 03:29:26 PM

Defiant · RV-Dreams Family Member

Jack , I agree I will believe it when I see it also , I have not seen any real world tests yet but I am intrigued ......

Defiant · RV-Dreams Family Member

We use an app called "Open Signal" now we do have Android phones so I am not sure what the Iphones apps have to offer, And since we are considering the Wilson DT 4G model with the directional antenna this app will point the direction of the cell tower .I am also testing out another App to see how it works. I see you are going to test out the Wilson Mobile 4G Amplifier be sure to let us know how it works.

Defiant · RV-Dreams Family Member

Ordered the Wilson DT 4G yesterday and will put it thru some tests here at the S & B since the signal here is poor when it arrives, also tested out app called "signal finder" which seems to work ok also

-- Edited by Defiant on Saturday 7th of June 2014 05:57:51 AM

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

Thanks for all the support it has been painful . Learned a few things in the process. First off the arbitrator told us the units that did get approved actually only got 6 months approvals as with those Lobbyists and Lawyers working on their behalf convince the powers that be that . There had to be product on the market whether it made new standards or not as they would go out of business and folks needed something ( those manufacturers spent over 2 million on Lawyers and Lobbyists ). Also they are already having troubles with the units that have user adjustable pods ( which was against the new rules in the first place ! ) Our new boards now have over 900 chips whereas the previous generation had just over 400 . This partially due to the amplifiers being five band now instead of two , but also to meet all these new requirements without sacrificing power . We have also increased sensitivity , reduced needed antenna separation. Our engineers are working 7 days a week on the new schematics. We will then spin four new prototypes for the 4 models . We stay at the front of the line during all this . After approval . We have to procure all parts then do our production runs . Thank you all for your patience and understanding

-- Edited by Max Signal on Saturday 7th of June 2014 04:07:23 PM

Defiant · RV-Dreams Family Member

Defiant wrote:
Ordered the Wilson DT 4G yesterday and will put it thru some tests here at the S & B since the signal here is poor when it arrives, also tested out app called "signal finder" which seems to work ok also

-- Edited by Defiant on Saturday 7th of June 2014 05:57:51 AM

We received our DT 4G a few weeks ago and I have been testing it on and off over the past few weeks and have the directional antenna temporarily mounted I have had a 15 to 20 db gain , I just have it aiming in the general direction of the cell tower at this point , signal is good where we are right now even without the booster but I am please with the performance boost so far

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

Mobile Unit

Finally !!! Approved . Materials will be up for downloading at our Manufacturing site in a few days.

www.maximumsignal.info

FCC ID2AC4N-MAXAMPMOBILE

bjoyce · RV-Dreams Family Member

Max Signal: That is wonderful news.

The Restless Youngs · RV-Dreams Family Member

Fantastic!!!! Can't wait!!

Technomadia · RV-Dreams Family Member

Super excited .. and congrats on this major milestone!

Bill and Linda · RV-Dreams Family Member

Cherie, or Jack if your monitoring - I looked at the frequencies for this device and this disclaimer caught my eye - “Please note amplifiers do not work with IDEN (Nextel & Southern Link) or AWS (T-Mobile)” Does this device support Verizon XLTE? The “. . .or AWS . . .” band comment is what caught my eye. Perhaps that’s the T-Mobile only AWS band it does not support. Looking for clarification / confirmation as pertains to Verizon. XLTE.

Still hoping for that hard wired XLTE amp for the data modem. That one is very much in need and I know they're working on it.

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

Bill and Linda wrote:

Cherie, or Jack if your monitoring - I looked at the frequencies for this device and this disclaimer caught my eye - “Please note amplifiers do not work with IDEN (Nextel & Southern Link) or AWS (T-Mobile)” Does this device support Verizon XLTE? The “. . .or AWS . . .” band comment is what caught my eye. Perhaps that’s the T-Mobile only AWS band it does not support. Looking for clarification / confirmation as pertains to Verizon. XLTE.

Still hoping for that hard wired XLTE amp for the data modem. That one is very much in need and I know they're working on it.

Spec sheets on our new products are not even up yet. I assure you our new amplifiers cover AWS frequencies , cellular frequencies and LTE frequencies . Not direct connect though . Wireless , But they will handle up to 8 devices at once . Even on different carriers at the same time. With all devices receiving full amplification . No other product does that . New sheets will be posted in the next few days.

-- Edited by Max Signal on Friday 5th of September 2014 08:16:24 AM

Bill and Linda · RV-Dreams Family Member

Max Signal wrote:
Bill and Linda wrote:

Cherie, or Jack if your monitoring - I looked at the frequencies for this device and this disclaimer caught my eye - “Please note amplifiers do not work with IDEN (Nextel & Southern Link) or AWS (T-Mobile)” Does this device support Verizon XLTE? The “. . .or AWS . . .” band comment is what caught my eye. Perhaps that’s the T-Mobile only AWS band it does not support. Looking for clarification / confirmation as pertains to Verizon. XLTE.

Still hoping for that hard wired XLTE amp for the data modem. That one is very much in need and I know they're working on it.
Spec sheets on our new products are not even up yet. I assure you our new amplifiers cover AWS frequencies , cellular frequencies and LTE frequencies . Not direct connect though . Wireless , But they will handle up to 8 devices at once . Even on different carriers at the same time. With all devices receiving full amplification . No other product does that . New sheets will be posted in the next few days.

-- Edited by Max Signal on Friday 5th of September 2014 08:16:24 AM

Sorry, you provided a link. I just read the material from that link.

www.maximumsignal.info

I went to the link and when I did, this came up under more info.

Technical Specifications

Frequency:	TX: 824‐849MHz/1850‐1910MHz RX: 869‐894MHz/1930‐1990MHz Receive Sensitivity: 800MHz: -120 dBm
Gain:	Up to 65dB (Dual Band, Bi‐Directional) (65dB 800MHz / 60dB 1900MHz)
Output Power:	Uplink: +36dBm (maximum peak power) Downlink: +27dBm Type of Modulation: CDMA, GSM (Class V), TDMA, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA AC Supply Voltage: 110‐240 V AC
Current Draw:	3.6 watts at 110 volts
Operating Tempurature	-25º C to 85º C
Storage Temperature:	40º C to 150º C.

*Technical Specifications are subject to change without notice.

Please note amplifiers do not work with IDEN (Nextel & Southern Link) or AWS (T-Mobile)

Obviously the link you provided was not for the product you just received approval for but it was reasonable, IMO, to assume it did.

Bill

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

I put in the post new materials would be up in several days . The new product is called the Max Amp Mobile . That spec sheet is for the Traveler . Jack Mayer and the Technomadia have the info on the new units . Jack actually did field testing for us on one of the prototypes . Jack and the Technomadia folks will be receiving the initial production units for independent reviews.

Bill and Linda · RV-Dreams Family Member

Max Signal wrote:
I put in the post new materials would be up in several days . The new product is called the Max Amp Mobile . That spec sheet is for the Traveler . Jack Mayer and the Technomadia have the info on the new units . Jack actually did field testing for us on one of the prototypes . Jack and the Technomadia folks will be receiving the initial production units for independent reviews.

You posted: “Finally !!! Approved . Materials will be up for downloading at our Manufacturing site in a few days.” I specifically interpreted that as materials to be used for manufacturing the device. Not a website. I’ve never heard of a website being referred to as a manufacturing site. But hey, that’s why I asked Cherie and Jack as I know they know as they get back channel info. Sorry to offend by asking a question.

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

It is not a sales site . It is a manufacturers site where all our dealers and customers can download sales material, install guides and quick start guides . We got our approval at 7:45 EST last night after 19 months of turmoil with the FCC. We were not allowed to release any materials till final approval was granted. Our webmaster has not had a chance to update any sites as we were up till 3 in the morning just revising sales sheets per FCC instructions. Our sales site is www.maximumsignal.net

Jack Mayer · RV-Dreams Family Member

The Max Amp line is not yet available, but it is approved by the FCC. If you need something TODAY, then you do not have that in your list of options.

Personally, if you CAN wait I would to see how these new products all shake out. Both Chris/Cherie and myself will be testing the production units of the Mas Amp. Technomadia has already tested the currently available amps with some interesting results. They will be able to compare the MaxAmp to the current flock of amps.

So wait if you can.

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

New sales sheets of the new products approved so far are available for downloading now at

http://www.maximumsi...les-sheets.html

bjoyce · RV-Dreams Family Member

Thanks Gord. I can wait until yours is out since I know it will work.

Technomadia · RV-Dreams Family Member

The Junkman wrote:\
Ordered the Wilson 460108 Booster kit w/ 120v adapter and trucker antenna from Amazon..
Based on the the technomadia tests..

Actually... you did that based on a comparison of the specs we posted. We haven't released much of our test data yet, as we haven't completed it.

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

The Junkman wrote:
Can someone tell me the difference between max signal and Cyfre Cellular Amplifiers ?

Is max signal a reseller ?

Cyfre is the line we used to be distributer for . We bought out Cyfre last year . Max Signal amplifiers are our amplifiers we are the manufacturer as well as our own distributor.

-- Edited by Max Signal on Friday 12th of September 2014 06:54:17 PM

The Junkman · RV-Dreams Family Member

Max Signal wrote:
The Junkman wrote:
Can someone tell me the difference between max signal and Cyfre Cellular Amplifiers ?

Is max signal a reseller ?
Cyfre is the line we used to be distributer for . We bought out Cyfre last year . Max Signal amplifiers our our amplifiers we are the manufacturer as well as our own distributor.

So you sell your amps under 2 company names then? Max signal and Cyfre ?

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

Cyfre line is direct connect only amplifiers now . Maximum Signal are wireless amplifiers.

The Junkman · RV-Dreams Family Member

The wilson boosters can be used with the millenicom 291 jet pack?

Just velcro it to the inside antenna pad, right?

Will be a few days for the Jetpack, and the G02.. haven't got that yet either..

But will use the booster with my note3... for now.

The Junkman · RV-Dreams Family Member

Not much to review .. really.

added a wilson trucker antenna to a 12ft pole.. hose clamped it to the rear ladder.. sits about 4ft above the roof.. took me from a 1-2 bar.. to a steady 4 bar. Internet seems faster..

Also .. You set your phone on a pad.. That is where it boost from.. Have it sitting next to my home patrol scanner.. I think it is boosting that too..

About it.. It works well.. so far worth the money.. and is FCC approved for RV's..I think boondockers would benefit from one of these.

-- Edited by The Junkman on Sunday 14th of September 2014 03:14:26 PM

The Junkman · RV-Dreams Family Member

Ok.. so, I'm looking at carriers for data.. and seeing some run on different frequencies? ( as some where talking about in this thread, I didn't understand then )

So are all amps able to boost all carriers in 3g, 4g , lte ?

If I switch carriers from verizon / millenicom... do I need a new amp?

-- Edited by The Junkman on Friday 10th of October 2014 08:55:46 AM

Glenn West · RV-Dreams Family Member

Millencom service is Version service

The Junkman · RV-Dreams Family Member

What about at&t ? They seem to have a pretty good price point right now..

I'm curious cause, My verizon plan is flexible. I can knock my plan down to 1gb from 30gb.. and move to Att.. or something else. Pending price wars on data service..

I think I found the answer yesterday though.. I am am pretty sure any booster amp works for anyones 3g,4g , lte data or voice service.. And more too ... cause i think, mine is boosting my scanner too..

Thanks

-- Edited by The Junkman on Saturday 11th of October 2014 08:08:36 AM

Jack Mayer · RV-Dreams Family Member

Some boosters cover multiple carriers frequencies and others do not. You need to be SURE what you are buying. Also, not all boosters cover 4G. There are still boosters being sold that are only 3G. Again - know what you are buying and what it covers. Do not buy a Verizon booster - for example, that does not cover AWS - called XLTE by Verizon. Or in a year you will complain that you cannot get on the "fast" network.

Buying boosters is not a snap decision. Buying the Mobile Internet Handbook will help a LOT in explaining the situation and choices. Disclaimer: I wrote a chapter in it - but I do not benefit financially from it.

The Junkman · RV-Dreams Family Member

Yea.. Been reading on escapees, and on the web.

I see some don't cover them all.. I think the wilson one I bought , does. Mainly wanted to make sure ATT.. And 3g too and 4g.. which is important, as sometimes, I see only 3g available.

I think with the "data wars" going on.. someone buying a amp may not want to buy a product that can limit the use of it.. By frequency , by service provider, or by speed. While one amp .. in one service may be more powerful .. it may not be best in the long run if you need to buy another one, for a different data service... That would suck.. as these are $600 each..

So to me more options would be better than a db or 2 in gain..

And the notifying the service provider you have one.. Is that happening? I mean, I told Millicom I was running their mifi through a amp, on one of the many resets, They didn't say anything.. I guess I'm covered now.

I don't think the handbook there has the wilson mobile in it? I don't recall seeing it in there.

-- Edited by The Junkman on Saturday 11th of October 2014 08:31:36 PM

Technomadia · RV-Dreams Family Member

The Junkman wrote:

I don't think the handbook there has the wilson mobile in it? I don't recall seeing it in there.

-- Edited by The Junkman on Saturday 11th of October 2014 08:31:36 PM

The book doesn't go into details on any specific product, as those change too often (we keep that content on the RV Mobile Internet Resource Center). But the 'Enhancing the Signal' and 'Understanding Frequencies' chapters go into great detail on explaining frequencies and what bands each carrier uses, and info on boosters in general - including registering your booster. (It even includes the process for registering with Millenicom).

The Junkman · RV-Dreams Family Member

Technomadia wrote:
The Junkman wrote:

I don't think the handbook there has the wilson mobile in it? I don't recall seeing it in there.

-- Edited by The Junkman on Saturday 11th of October 2014 08:31:36 PM
The book doesn't go into details on any specific product, as those change too often (we keep that content on the RV Mobile Internet Resource Center). But the 'Enhancing the Signal' and 'Understanding Frequencies' chapters go into great detail on explaining frequencies and what bands each carrier uses, and info on boosters in general - including registering your booster. (It even includes the process for registering with Millenicom).

Will look for it.. went looking in my files for it yesterday, and couldn't find it. I knew I should have gotton the print copy..lol

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

Off to Washington DC on Monday for another hearing with the FCC on Tuesday . Everyone please keep your fingers crossed.

bjoyce · RV-Dreams Family Member

Max Signal wrote:
Off to Washington DC on Monday for another hearing with the FCC on Tuesday . Everyone please keep your fingers crossed.

My fingers are crossed till they hurt.

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

bjoyce wrote:
Max Signal wrote:
Off to Washington DC on Monday for another hearing with the FCC on Tuesday . Everyone please keep your fingers crossed.

My fingers are crossed till they hurt.

4 Days of long meetings and sessions in the DC and FCC main lab in Maryland.We won. We were told Paperwork will be expedited on Tuesday. More to come!

Bill and Linda · RV-Dreams Family Member

Max Signal wrote:
bjoyce wrote:
Max Signal wrote:
Off to Washington DC on Monday for another hearing with the FCC on Tuesday . Everyone please keep your fingers crossed.

My fingers are crossed till they hurt.
4 Days of long meetings and sessions in the DC and FCC main lab in Maryland.We won. We were told Paperwork will be expedited on Tuesday. More to come!

Hope this type approval comes soon for you. Having dealt with the FCC, all the way up to getting the actual Commissioners, all 5 of them, vote in session to approve my applications, I know how hard this can be. Really hard.

The Junkman · RV-Dreams Family Member

My wilson 4g amp is booming. when needed. Found here in bushnell FL..It's not needed though.. Had it for many months now.

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

The Junkman wrote:
My wilson 4g amp is booming. when needed. Found here in bushnell FL..It's not needed though.. Had it for many months now.

Glad it is working so well for you . Ours is going to change the marketplace . At least according to everyone at the FCC labs this week. They wanted us to do a symposium on our new approach to cellular amplification. We declined as we are not sharing our new technology with anyone.

Terry and Jo · RV-Dreams Family Member

Max Signal wrote:
The Junkman wrote:
My wilson 4g amp is booming. when needed. Found here in bushnell FL..It's not needed though.. Had it for many months now.

Glad it is working so well for you . Ours is going to change the marketplace . At least according to everyone at the FCC labs this week. They wanted us to do a symposium on our new approach to cellular amplification. We declined as we are not sharing our new technology with anyone.

Max Signal,

Please be kind enough to return later and create a separate thread when your product is ready for market. I'm sure a lot of us will be interested.

Terry

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

Terry and Jo wrote:
Max Signal wrote:
The Junkman wrote:
My wilson 4g amp is booming. when needed. Found here in bushnell FL..It's not needed though.. Had it for many months now.

Glad it is working so well for you . Ours is going to change the marketplace . At least according to everyone at the FCC labs this week. They wanted us to do a symposium on our new approach to cellular amplification. We declined as we are not sharing our new technology with anyone.
Max Signal,
Please be kind enough to return later and create a separate thread when your product is ready for market. I'm sure a lot of us will be interested.
Terry
I will for sure . There will also be independent Reviews from Jack Mayer and the fine folks of Technomadia. I am getting pre production testing samples made for them now the FCC will let us.

Jack Mayer · RV-Dreams Family Member

Chris/Cherie and I are looking forward to testing this product. It will be interesting to see how it performs in the wild, and especially back to back with the 4G.

Max Signal · RV-Dreams Family Member

Jack Mayer wrote:
Chris/Cherie and I are looking forward to testing this product. It will be interesting to see how it performs in the wild, and especially back to back with the 4G.

Now I am really excited. Just got a call from one of the engineers at The FCC's main lab in Maryland. Just wanted to tell me again how blown away he was with our product . He could not believe how the product performed or how we had actually built it to carrier standards . ( which is much higher than even their standards ). He thanked me for our perseverance

in fighting to get this product approved . Especially when he has found out the obstacles that were put in front of us and we never gave up . I am just glowing right now with all his compliments. It will never get back the last 22 months of torture and abuse we have endured but it makes me feel good when someone such as him thanks us for doing things right and not taking shortcuts.

-- Edited by Max Signal on Monday 16th of February 2015 05:07:19 PM

His_Hers_Alaska · RV-Dreams Community Member

I can't get into the technical specs because it's not my area of specialties but I can give a product review.

In May 2014, I installed the Wilson 4g Signal Booster in our motorhome and it works great. We live in Alaska and signals can use all the help they can get up here. We work from home/RV and this booster has increase our range of places we can camp/work.

I can literally turn on the machine and watch my bars increase. We have two different mobile providers to insure one of us has service if it's available. It helps with voice and data boosting.

The only complaint is the interior antenna. It only has a 2' range, I was told they are working on a stronger interior antenna. In the mean time we utilize the cord and velco strips to get the antenna closer to us. We will also set the phone by the antenna and make a hot spot or use a blue tooth head seat.

There are several installation options depending on personal preference. Here is how I installed ours.

Ben.

-- Edited by His_Hers_Alaska on Saturday 11th of April 2015 09:31:20 AM

The Junkman · RV-Dreams Family Member

Did Max Signal ever build his product? lol

Alie and Jims Carrilite · RV-Dreams Family Member

www.maximumsignal.net/
Order yours today!