Bill Adams wrote:

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 I tried to explain that I was offering an extraordinarily deal to their readers and added a few choice words.

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Bill, I'm guessing it may have been your "few choice words" that may have gotten you banned?   I know iRV2 is pretty strict about folks selling stuff anywhere other than in their classified section.  Maybe a more appropriate response would have been to write the OP a private message with your offer?

RVRon wrote:

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Bill Adams wrote:

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 I tried to explain that I was offering an extraordinarily deal to their readers and added a few choice words.

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Bill, I'm guessing it may have been your "few choice words" that may have gotten you banned?   I know iRV2 is pretty strict about folks selling stuff anywhere other than in their classified section.  Maybe a more appropriate response would have been to write the OP a private message with your offer?

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 I suspect you are correct!  I did tell them that I would contact the OP by PM and that might have been why they banned me to prevent me from doing so.  I also told them how little I cared that I had been warned as they were way out of line deleting that kind of a post when it was clearly an offer in kind designed to save the poster a bunch of money over what it would have cost to do it any other way.  No worries, I have deleted the link to the site and I am right with myself which is all that's necessary for me.

Well, I'll chime in here for a couple of reasons.

First, we have friends over at iRV2 and several of our readers frequent that forum.  It's a good RVing Forum and friendlier than some of the others for the most part.  I'll also say that enforcing a very strict, "no exceptions" policy is much easier than something more subjective like we do here, even though it may seem unreasonable in certain cases.

Second, since this has been brought up, I went ahead and posted our policy with regard to selling in our Guidelines & Suggestions sub-forum.  Hopefully, it will provide a little clarification.

This also gives me the opportunity to once again thank the members of the RV-Dreams Forum.  We have had occassional, although brief, lapses, but I still proudly think this is the friendliest RV Forum on the web.  And, at the same time, our members have shown that we can discuss sensitive topics and can disagree with civility, diplomacy, and respect.  Thank you! 

Bill, I am presently banned from IRV2.com as well. I got banned for continuing a discussion (via private messaging to the admin - NOT online) of what I considered heavy handed moderating. With each request for more information (via private message) on why I was given "demerit" points for a particular post of mine, a received a short terse response and another "demerit" point. This went back and forth for a few days. Yesterday I tried to log on and got a notice that my account was banned for two weeks for "repeated rules violations"! I love the content of the board and have been an active contributor for five years but on a few occasions have had a post edited or deleted my a moderator for minor inadvertent infractions of their rules. This last time I challenged them to explain themselves and apparently THAT is a violation as well. I wouldn't at all be surprised if I've just racked up another point for this post. LOL I'm going to have to look elsewhere for my RV forum needs, IRV2.com is just a bit too arrogant in their relationship with their users.

Hey, Bill. Someone told me they would even give you demerits if you talked about them on another forum. True? (I'm serious, as stupid as this sounds).

While I do not have any answer for you Jack, it really would not surprise me. Since I have no intention of returning to the forum for a 3rd time (yeah, I know, screw me twice......).
I have posted to various forums for over 10 years and I have never seen anything like iRV2!

I just discovered this forum and I have been a member of IRV2. I have followed Bill and Jack on other forums, too. In fact, I got a lot of input on the basic design of my motor home internet connections from Jack on the Escapees forum and his web page (thanks Jack).

I guess I'm not controversial enough. I have never gotten a warning or had a post deleted (that I noticed). They have gone a bit overboard, in my opinion, worried about guns, religion, and politics. Other than that, I enjoy that forum as much as I enjoy the others.

I tried to sell something in their classified once, but it was more trouble than it's worth with the 15 day expiration. Not sure how many people even look there. I know I didn't. I will continue to enjoy this forum, that one, and the others that I frequent.

:)

I'm not a member there and won't be. But from the little reading I've done, its "my way" or your BANNED!
I usually don't disturb the pile, but when I do its usually for a very good reason.
There are several forums that I'm on, Rv'ing, Boats, trucks, etc. I've been put on suspension several times when a PM was sent by the receiver to a MOD who then contacted me. Thats when I have a habit of telling people various things they don't like to hear.
From what I have seen here, arguements are allowed, as long as its kept decent. I can handle that..

offthewall wrote:

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mrschwarz wrote:

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...They have gone a bit overboard, in my opinion, worried about guns, religion, and politics. ...

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If you had stated that opinion in any way, shape or form on IRV2.com or in private messages to the moderators, you would have received your demerits :)

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I headed over to IRV2.com today since I thought my two week ban had been lifted only to find that my ban status has been changed to "forever"!

Since I've been banned for two weeks and couldn't have possibly been on their forum, apparenly they do read other forums and assign punishments based on your posts outside of IRV2.com.

I wonder if thier advertisers are in agreement with those policies?

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Well, they can do what they want - it is, after all, their forum. But it does seem kind of random what sorks and does not work, there.

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 THIS is not their forum and they should not dole out punishment for speaking my mine here. They can do what they want on THIER forum but they will have to live with the consequences. IRV2.com may not care what thier users think of them but thier advertisers certainly care what image they portray to their customers. It is a very connected world we live in and if you treat people badly, it will come back on you eventually.

Well, I just could not resist checking and my 3 month ban as been extended to forever as well! That's funny.

On another forum (firearms related, not RV's), if one even talks about someone else being banned they are likely to ban the one talking about it.

Now, as a moderator here on the RV Dreams forums, all I have had to do is delete a post or two and ban the spammers.  It is really a pleasure to deal with such good hearted and polite people.

That said, there is an "alter-ego" that I haven't been able to post in the threads yet.  Haven't learned the details of doing that yet.  I can get the link address and click on the image icon, but so far, I've not been able to show the "alter-ego."

So, I guess I'll just have to link to my Photobucket account for you to see it.

The Spammer Hammer

(I can just feel the fear out there now.)

Terry

Bill, I should go and check my status there. I do have a user name.....maybe I'm banned as well for even participating in this conversation :)

On edit - well my password and user name seems locked somehow....

-- Edited by Jack Mayer on Sunday 1st of January 2012 10:17:35 AM

I have this irrestible urge to go to that other site and stir the pot al little.   Having access to about 9 computers should keep their hands busy.

Anybody want me to say hello?

I usually ghost around over there and have seen so many BS replies.
Thats funny though "Roach" is my last name!

Since my two week ban was supposed to be up and I was still unable to log onto IRV2.com, I re-registerd with a new name. After two days, I received this on log on.

 

 

You have been banned for the following reason: offthewall banned member registered (nice try) Date the ban will be lifted: Never

 

A bit childish (nice try), but at least it confirmed that the lifetime ban was not a mistake, they intended  to extend the two week ban to a lifetime ban for the posts made in this thread.

I have contacted four of their corporate sponsors that I have been doing business with for more years than IRV2.com has existed to inform them of the childish and vindictive nature in which they stalk user's travels to other forums and dole out punishments and personal attacks.

-- Edited by offthewall on Monday 2nd of January 2012 07:16:08 PM

Someone probably runs searches using the user names to see if they match in other forums.

My experience with IRV2 is that I made a post and they refused it due to my signature box as you see below.
It mentions our EVERGREEN owners and wannabe group on Yahoo.
Needless to say I removed myself and will never go back.

Yes that's one Forum with a lot of Deputies. I've been banned for six months after responding to somebodies post asking about POR15 for rust protection. I mentioned it is an awesome product that is why I am a dealer up here. I doubt very much anybody is going to start ordering from Canada to ship down to the U.S. when the product is already in the U.S. (that's where it's made). I've been banned for having my company website in my signature. I'm not trying to sell any services or products it was there for informative purposes. I've helped a lot of people with questions and issues concerning various mechanical situations. Then on comes the Deputies with their power trip and................"YOU'RE BANNED".
If you check out some of their posts, most of them are absolutely useless and I believe it's just to keep up their "Post Count" to be King.

IRv2......is a morning staple for me , alot of good info is gleaned from there , the nice thing is you dont need to be a member.

One thing tho........if you have had a problem there , voice that problem there and try to solve it with them. or dont do business there.......Bad mouthing them elsewhere is just as bad as being part of them.

I just learned a few things here on this forum......just from reading this post......

-- Edited by Lucky Mike on Monday 23rd of December 2013 12:56:45 PM

If I don't like a forum and disagree with the moderation, I quit. I have never had any attraction to IRV2 so one can surely exist without them. I was asked to be a moderator on a non-RV website, one that has several moderators since it has many, many members and encompasses just about every subject under the sun. I was planning to limit going to the website because of a couple of issues, one being that the moderators were extremely liberal, my total opposite and it was causing an "imbalance" there. When I read the through all of the moderator guidelines, I was shocked. It was nonsense to me. Points for infractions and how if you ban them for the 3 days in the beginning that it often took care of the problem because they didn't like not being able to post. What it sounded like to me was guidelines for a daycare center! I wanted no part of that. They did say that if I were interested after reading the materials, they would need to discuss some other policies I would have to agree with. I can imagine. I have a "status" under my screen name which is not "liberal" and my blogs which allow much more flexibility reflect my conservative viewpoints. So, I was thinking as a moderator, they might try to put a "leash" on me. I declined. The thing is, as a moderator, you have to enforce the rules that are set forth and play what appears to be complicated games with people who get out of line in the opinion of those that made the rules.

I can think of one forum that I used to go to and I swear there are a handful that are going through their 2nd childhood or never finished with their first ones. They really ruin the forum for everyone else because they insist on bickering over the slightest things, often the same things again and again over time. Another one, I think the moderator has just been in place too long and her moderation is so lop-sided that it is too irritating to bother going there. If I want to be stressed out, I can just listen to the news!

Obviously, if you are posting on one forum about another, someone is being a tattle tail, probably someone that isn't your best friend. My advice is not to waste your time and energy on a forum that doesn't fit your personality and beliefs. Life is too short for such grief!

You guys are dredging up bad memories of IRV2.com. I had forgotten all about them. LOL.

I just ran across this forum. It seems civilized. I will be spending a lot more time here! Thanks for accepting my membership request.

I too am banned from irv2. A month!
My ban was for unknowingly doing the same thing I see others do and get away with. It's unfortunate.

I like that site as well and had been a "paying" member for 4 years. Guess all a guy can do is his penance and move on.

Welcome Les. Yeah I was banned from there for 6 months. They say I was promoting my business. All I did was comment on POR-15 as being a great product, as I sell it...........Then BAMM, I was finished. I was even a paying member. The "Big Moderator Police" are a bunch of useless "posters". They post a bunch of useless crap to bring their post count up and look important. Had a lot of headbutting with that SarahW a  lot. Finally just ignore the troll.

Cheers,

Bernie