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Best Fifth Wheels For Full-timing

Racerguy · RV-Dreams Family Member

These are my own personel observations in the $50,000 to $75,000 range. I would have to say that Cedar Creek 36RLTS at 13,870 GVRW(38 ft), Carriage Cameo LXI at 16,000 GVRW(36ft), and Select/Mobile Suites at 16,500 GVRW(36ft) look very good. Although We have not yet made our Fulltiming rig purchase we are leaning heavily towards the Cedar Creek mainly because you get a very attractive floor plan in a well built coach and do not need to have a F450 or larger to pull it( I prefere to stick with my Dodge Cummins

).The others are also quality units but need a larger tow rig. I'm sure I missed some but as I said the purchase has not been made yet so all input will be eagerly read and checked out.

-- Edited by Racerguy at 11:04, 2006-10-13

Ken & Sarah · RV-Dreams Family Member

I am also still researching the fifth wheel situation but I have narrowed it down to three units I feel will work for us. They are; Day Dreamer by Cedar Creek, http://www.forestriverinc.com/nd/default22.asp?page=cedardd&nav=rec&choice=brochure, Presidential Suite by Holiday Rambler, http://www.holidayrambler.com/models/hr.aspx?content=index&model=presidentialsuite, and Americana Fifth Wheel by Americanarv, http://www.americanarv.com/. To pull one of these I am looking at the Ford F450, with a diesel enging, tow package and engine brake. Maybe this will change, maybe not, it will be a fun journal no matter what we pick. I am enjoying the trip so far. Look forward to meeting all of you one day.

Darrell and Judy · RV-Dreams Family Member

Less than 50K - Cedar Creek and Sunnybrook products.

50K to 75K - Cedar Creek, Newmar Torrey Pines, Sunnybrook, and Travel Supreme Classic.

75K to 100K - Daydreamer, Mobile Suites, Newmar Kountry Star, and Travel Supreme.

over 100K - New Horizons and Newmar Mountainaire.

These are my personal choices; however, there are a bunch of others that are definately good choices such as Hitchhiker, Teton Homes, etc. I'm just not that familiar with them.

blijil · RV-Dreams Family Member

<$50,000 - Cedar Creek

However many units above that price have significant pro's and cons. It seems the difference is in the eyes of the beholder. True 4 season units are the few elite each with their following.

Best? I think Howard is stirring up a little discussion.

Larry

Workinrvers · RV-Dreams Family Member

We really like the Keystone Montana 3400RL and the previous mentioned Cedar Creek 36RLTS. Doubletree Suites make a great looking higher end unit but is out of our price range.

Tim & Robyn · RV-Dreams Family Member

Boy, talk about stirrin' the puddin'...! Actually, I'm very interested in this thread as we're in the looking/researching phase. We're probably going to be very dependent on the inormation in the RV Consumer Group's ratings CD, so I'd also like to hear from anybody who did likewise, and how happy you are with the result.

We're going to be fulltimers; we want something that will be a true four-seasons rig (not so much for cold weather as for keeping down cooling costs in warm/hot climes), and we want something safe that will hold up for a long time. When we go, we want to be debt-free, and trading up 5ers every few years doesn't fit into that model, especially since our disposable income will be a lot less than it is now, while prices on everything will surely be going up over time.

If money were no object, Teton or New Horizons would be at the top of my list. Since money IS an object however, I find myself returning again and again to look at the Nu-Wa Hitchhiker Champagne models... even they aren't cheap by any means, starting at @ $70k msrp.

Tim & Robyn

Luvglass · RV-Dreams Family Member

We came at this without any experience is either camping or RV'ing and did a lot of research, albeit quickly, including shows, dealers, factory visits and the RV Consumer Group. We were even lucky enough to find someone who was willing to send us 3 years of Trailer Life and Motor Home magazines to review. We came to the conclusion that the Carriage line offered the best combination of layout, appearance, construction and warranty for our new fulltime life. Carriage makes trailers ranging in price from the high $30's to $175,000. When we discovered that the basic construction and insulation is the same across the line, we chose the Cameo model, second from the bottom and went with that. Their full time warranty and the Consumer Group 4 star rating cemented it.

We were able to upgrade the unit with items like convection microwave, independant electric jacks, arctic insulation and other things, that were offered in their higher models. Our unit listed at just over $82 and we got it for $61.

So far, so good! No real problems (not of our own doing) and we've camped in -14 to 104 without difficulty.

Fred

sendbaht · RV-Dreams Community Member

Tomorrow is the big RV show here in Los Angeles, well, Pomona, going to check out all your wonderful answers.

Can't wait.

Don

tatkinson · RV-Dreams Community Member

Not sure, but we think maybe Excel should be added to the 50,000-75,000 list for the Classic model and the 75,000=100,000 for the Excel Limited. We are currently investigating this company and are very pleased with what we have discovered. This subject will certainly draw a million answers.....what it really boils down to is your own needs and your personal preference. But, it's fun to discuss the pros and cons of each. Thanks, Howard! Great subject!

JudyUK · RV-Dreams Community Member

We have spent the last year researching 5th wheels shopping dealers, RV shows, online forums, and manufacturer sites.
Although there are a lot of manufacturers with good products, we're trying to keep our fiver and truck under 100K.
We really like the Montana 3400 by Keystone and should be able to buy it new for 45-50K with all the goodies.
The Montana forum is one of the best forums on the web and has lots of good info for anyone in a fiver. It's well run and lots of friendly people, just like this forum.

We have never owned a fiver and really don't want to make a huge investment without knowing if 5th wheeling is for us.

A big concern for us is making sure we can pull a fiver in a Ford 350. When you really study the dealer information regarding towing weight.......there are a lot of rigs out there that are probably dangerously overweight. As more of us hit the road, there could come a day when this becomes such an issue, that we may find our selves in the same weigh station line as the truckers.

Actually Howard, I want yours and Linda's Cambridge!!:) That's my favorite but like you, we know we'd need at least an F450 and we're just not ready to spend that kind of money......unless, of course, you'd like to sell us your rig;)

Luvglass · RV-Dreams Family Member

Judy,

You shouldn't have too much problem finding a trailer that can be towed by a F350, our 06 diesel dually is rated at 18,200.
Our Cameo came off the line with all our additions at 12,285# and the CVWR is 16250#. With all our stuff in it it's 15,550#. I'm sure there are a number of units in this weight category. What you have to careful of is we saw a few attractive units where the difference between the manufactured weight and the GVWR was only about 1000#. I feel you need at least 2500#, and needless to say there can't be too much. Somehow or other we keep adding things.

Good luck on your search,
Fred

Tom N Gina · RV-Dreams Family Member

We have looked at many rigs and one thing we found was the lack of storage in the more expensive 5ers. We just purchased a 3400RL and the main reason was the amount of storage with every option availible except the gen prep and the vacume. Duel pane windows, gel coat, second air, W/D prep, seperate slide controls, and many more, all this for the 50 range. The depreciation, and usability are what we took into consideration when deciding which route to go. Most of the time if you see a used rig on the lot that is a couple of years old they have done so many upgrades to the new ones it is almost cheaper to get into a new rig. The market doesn't seem to be to user friendly to a person that wants to purchase a rig a few years old, especially those that need to finance. Utimately it comes to personal choice and my idea is no way better then someone elses. Just a few of the things we have thought of when making our decision.

Tom N Gina

wmalefyt · RV-Dreams Family Member

I am really impressed with NuWa, makers of HitchHiker 5th wheels. After a lot of research and reading they seem to have the best built full-time rigs and more importantly the best customer service to back it up. The NuWa_RV Yahoo Group is a great place to check them out. Not only are there many satisfied HitchHiker owners there, but the CEO and other NuWa management regularly post on this forum. They answer specific questions for owners and wannabe's which I find most refreshing.

We're still researching, but right now in the $50,000-$75,000 (Base MSRP) we like the HitchHiker Discover America Model 329RSB. At 34'-5" in length and a GVWR of 13,500 lbs it fits our size and weight requirements. NuWa also warrants all of their trailers for full-time use.

Tim & Robyn · RV-Dreams Family Member

I too am impressed with NuWa... BUT we haven't actually seen any of their rigs yet. Seems like the only dealers near us sell only the crackerbox products. One thing I learned in the computer business is that it's really risky to buy software based solely on the marketing glossies. Right now my head hurts from all the research I've been doing. I think I'm going to give it a rest for a while and turn instead to starting to get rid of excess 'stuff'.

Tim Fansler

Sandra · RV-Dreams Family Member

We, of course, are very happy with our Titanium. Being from Ontario, Canada and since the Titanium is built there, we decided to go to the factory and have a look at them being built. The Titanium is very tall but our fifth wheel is 38 ft long with only 33 ft of that being on the road. It is made by Glendale in Strathroy, Ontario if anyone is interested. The link is http://www.glendalerv.com/. There are dealers in the U.S. and I have a spreadsheet of locations if anyone is interested.

Sandra

Sandra · RV-Dreams Family Member

I forgot to include the price range - $50,000 to $75,000.

Sandra

Tim & Robyn · RV-Dreams Family Member

How far is Strathroy from the Detroit/Windsor area? I have family in the Detroit metro area (Detroit is my hometown), so I'd have a place to stay if we could get up there to visit the Titanium factory. Actually, we'd have a place to stay near Kingsville, Ont. because my cousins have a cottage there on Lake Erie that used to belong to our grandmother... lots of fond memories of summer stays there when I was a kid... all the beach is gone now, though. BUT the lake is cleaner and the fish are back!

Tim Fansler

Sandra · RV-Dreams Family Member

From Windsor to Strathroy is 107 miles. I should have mentioned that Glendale don't do tours off the street. It has to be arranged through your dealer. Morry's Trailer Sales in Walkerton, ON is a very popular dealer. People from all over go to him. His phone # is 519-364-3748 and they are at RR#2 Walkerton. Walkerton is about 95 miles north of Strathroy. There are also 2 dealers in Michigan - Mike Riehl's in Chesterfield and American RV Sales in Grand Rapids. Riehl's phone E is 800-949-6402 and American is 877-863-9527.

Hope I've helped. If you need any other information, please let me know.

wmalefyt · RV-Dreams Family Member

fansler wrote:

I too am impressed with NuWa... BUT we haven't actually seen any of their rigs yet. Seems like the only dealers near us sell only the crackerbox products. One thing I learned in the computer business is that it's really risky to buy software based solely on the marketing glossies. Right now my head hurts from all the research I've been doing. I think I'm going to give it a rest for a while and turn instead to starting to get rid of excess 'stuff'.

Tim Fansler

Tim,

You should be able to find a NuWa dealer near you by logging on to NuWa's website, www.nuwa.com and using the dealer locater feature. I agree, don't ever buy anything sight unseen. Also checkout the NuWa Owners forum at www.nuwaowners.org. If possible, try to tour NuWa's factory in Chaunte, KS and see how they are built. We hope to do that this summer.

I know what you mean about your head hurting from all the research! I'm having the same feelings, but think it is time well spent and worth a few "headaches" to find the best RV for your budget.

Good luck!

Bill

-- Edited by wmalefyt at 17:19, 2007-01-09

fulltimer · RV-Dreams Community Member

My wife and I purchased a Landmark (Grand Canyon) by Heartland in August of 06 from RV's For Less in Knoxville, TN. We have been very happy with this unit and the dealer. We paid slightly over $60,000.00 including the hitch mounted in our truck. The Grand Canyon has three slides, fireplace, dual pane windows, two air conditioners (one with heat pump) and pretty much all the extras you would want. You can check out all the models Heartland makes at www.heartlandrvs.com. We owned a Class A DP prior and think the 5th wheel is a much better fit for us. I work construction and the wife and I live fulltime in the unit as I move from job to job. We use a 06 GMC 3500 dually withe the Duramax diesel and Allison transmission.

LIKENIT · RV-Dreams Community Member

We have been RV'ING 3 months each summer since 1993. Since 1993, I have been researching 5th wheels with a fine tooth comb, hanging out on RV Sites, attending RV Shows and following the RV Consumer Group Ratings each year.

Our selection of a NuWa Hitchiker Discover America 339 RSB was dictated by the following parameters.

1. We did not want to go beyond a 1 ton tow vehicle without duallys. Any of these are good fits for larger tow vehicles also.

2. We wanted an RV with a long track record of dependability and customer service with a good RV Consumer Group rating.

3. We wanted an RV that appealed to us regarding floor plan and owner satisfaction and a feeling we could count on the manufacturer.

For full-time purchase for our personal use my research led to the following list. New Horizon, Excel, NuWa, Travel Supreme, King of The Road, Teton, Carriage, Newmar, Holiday Rambler and McKenzie.

I would suggest anyone looking do a lot of research and verify what people say about their RV. Every persons opinion is just that. Their opinion, including mine. It is easy to get wowed by glitz and sales lingo. Owners tend to support their brand of RV. Take a tour of the factory and see if you can find a website that is operated by owners, not the factory. Get on that website and as many others as you can and ask question after question and look for problems people have and how the manufacturer responds to those problems. To learn about NuWa, go to the NuWa owners forum.

http://www.nuwaowners.org/forum/

and the NuWa Website. http://www.nuwa.com/

Tim & Robyn · RV-Dreams Family Member

LIKENIT,
Just out of curiosity could you share the reasons why you eliminated the other brands on your list? After researching, our list has come down to pretty much the same as yours.
Thanks,
Tim Fansler

LIKENIT · RV-Dreams Community Member

Hi Tim & Robin,

We definitely went through a lot of deliberation over this and I would feel confident with any of these rigs. I presently have a 99 F-350 which has a GCVWR of 20,000 pounds. My truck ready to travel with a full tank of gas and us in it weighs about 6,800, which leaves me with 13,200 for the loaded trailer. I expect to be over my 20,000 pound limit, but we do not plan to travel in the mountains for now and I usually drive around 60 or below. At the present time we do not want to get a new truck, but I did explain to my wife that we might need to consider that, as I do not like being over my ratings. She agreed with that option, which paves the way for a new truck. My biggest concern is stopping the trailer with our present truck, so we ordered the disc brake package which I have heard it is fantastic.

Other than that, it pretty much boiled down to weight, floorplan, reputation, manufacturers support and our personal liking of the NuWa products. We have been attending two large RV shows almost every year since 1994. We saw many rigs we liked and I had studied enough to be able to discern the glitz and hipe from the real quality. I feel so bad for the people that invest so much in rigs I know are not well constructed or supported.

That was a long learning curve, which sounds like you have done also. Every year we would go away from these shows saying to each other that NuWa seemed to make the best use of space for storage and layout to us, but I never liked the exterior look. We both liked the looks of the exterior thsi year and the upgrade on the paint package matches our present vehicle.

NuWa has introduced some new floorplans in the Discover America Series this year to lower the weight without lowering the quality and this enabled us to consider this line without changing tow vehicles yet. The final decision was made after a visit to the factory in November. We spent two days there and had a personal tour of the plant where we had the opportunity to ask lots of questions. They are like family there and we came away feeling they were an old school, honest and quality first manufacturer. There was a new 339 RSB that had just come off the line that they were prepping for the Louisville show. We were able to spend a few hours inside and out taking pictures and talking with their interior decorator. We discovered that they will try to do just about any modification you want to suit your specific desires within reason. That was also a great indication to us that they are very customer oriented. About half of the workers were women and our guide said they have found that women pay much more attention to detail and making sure things are right and look good. That sure is the case in our house.

If we were willing to go with a larger tow vehicle, I would have to go back to looking again and comparing them again with the Champain with the wood frame from the NUWa line and the others I previously mentioned. I would prefer something a little shorter than the 35 1/2 339 RSB, but everything is a compromise and we settled on this. Both of us love the floorplan and spending so much time inside one allowed us to sit and picture how things would work and how storage fit the way we visualized living in it.

These links are very helpful for tow vehicle trailer weight concerns
http://www.rversonline.org/ArtWtandBal.html

http://www.klenger.net/arctic-fox/weight/index.html

Hope this helps. If there is anything I haven't covered about our decision, please get back to me.

don babin · RV-Dreams Community Member

WE LIVE FULL TIME IN A ESCALADE 40FT. THE KZ PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH. WE HAVE LIVED IN OUR FOR 1 1/2 YEARS AND HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS. IT IS SO NICE. WE LOVE OUR COACH.

Mallo · RV-Dreams Family Member

The guy with the caps lock problem aside I find the Escalade to be over done.

For under 50K I like the Hitchhiker II LS (mid 40's to mid 60's in price range) also the Glacier Bay.

For over 50K I like the Other Hitchhiker products, the Excels, and the Carriage units.

I love the KZ dealers just never warmed up to the factory folks I've met.

Mallo

dream reachers · RV-Dreams Family Member

My wife and I spent 2 years researching RVs and preparing for fulltime life prior to purching our fifth wheel and truck. We attended 2" Life On Wheels" seminars [where we first met Howard and Linda] searched everything we could find on the internet and purchased RV Consumer Group materials. Our initial inclination was to purchase a new lower priced truck and trailer to keep within our budget. Our research and testimonies from others that went that route and later decided they needed to upgrade to a better quality unit led us to look for a used truck and trailer of high quality. We have now been fulltimers for a year and a half and have traveled several thousand miles. We feel very confident that we made the right choice. We narrowed our chioce to 3 -4 models and searched the internet for trailers about 2 years old . We found our Excel Limited that was loaded with options and good carry capacity. We later found a used medium duty truck, low milage, outfited as an rv toter. The Excel Limited is an excellant fulltime trailer and the manufacturer is very supportive. We were able to to go with a high quality unit and stay within our budget and start out debt free.

Speedhitch · RV-Dreams Family Member

No matter what unit you buy...be sure you have good residential fixtures that will last under full time use. Spend time going over your unit and make sure you keep it clean and caulked. Check your suspension on a regular basis. All these things will add to the life of you home. If you take care of it it will care for you for many years of travel. It does not matter how much you pay for one if it is not taken care of you will not have it long.

Camper_Boy · RV-Dreams Family Member

To those of you with 40 ft+ FWs . . . does the length of the rig present a lot of problems negotiating campground roads? How do you know ahead of time if you'll be able to get around in the campground, not to mention get parked on the site??

Thanks!

Jack Mayer · RV-Dreams Family Member

It can, depending on the campground. Forest Service campgrounds and some state parks can be problematic. We always check out the roads and sites first if in doubt.

Luvglass · RV-Dreams Family Member

The problem with really long trailers is the length of the back in sites in older state & federal parks and the narrowness of the roads for maneuvering to back in. It's really a crap shoot, but I see loads of large rigs, so people must be able to deal with it. Also it's hardly ever a problem in commercial campgrounds.

Judy · RV-Dreams Family Member

Again do some reading up on the campgrounds that you will be planing on staying at. For example are big rigs welcome. Use the internet and learn. You have to do your homework just as you would do when you purchase your rig or truck. If you are planing on full-timing you will LEARN how to get into spaces that you want to get into.
southwestjudy

CWelte · RV-Dreams Community Member

This thread is a few years old, can we get it started again for those of us currently looking for a rig? Specifically, my family is looking for a bunkhouse to full-time in.

cherylbrv · RV-Dreams Family Member

I agree, and while we're at it, how about a thread for best motorhomes as well?

Lucky Mike · RV-Dreams Family Member

the big thing is Price point......what suits ones needs and ones budget

Best motor home out there would be a Provost.........but one would have to make a hard decision on whether to buy a condo in the Bahama's and live there retirement years on the interest of the money saved.....or spend the million and cruise the hi-ways

first unit you buy for fulltiming always comes with buyers remorse.....you never get what you want and need the first time around!!

GENECOP · RV-Dreams Family Member

I am a Big Fan of Class 8 Truck Conversions. I have one, I love driving it, I love being in it. The Brands to consider are Renegade, Showhauler, NRC, Optima, just to name a few. These truck platforms are designed to travel the highways 1,000,000 miles and more, the engines are easily accessed, service can be performed at ANY Truckstop. And finally the most important factor is safety, in a serious accident having a hood and large Detroit Diesel engine in front of me makes me feel a lot safer.

Neil and Connie · RV-Dreams Family Member

If you want the absolutely best built 5ver on the market and can afford it get a New Horizons. Our finalists were their Majestic or an Elite Suites and after taking the factory tours and looking at the construction with an engineer's eye there is no comparison. Heavier than most but still well within limits.

Ours is a 39 foot Majestic. Dry weight about 18,500, loaded weight around 21,500. Rig GVWR 23,500 I think. We're pulling with a 2012 F450 Dualey; no issues with hills, grades or stopping so far…and we've spent the last couple months out here in the Rockies of CO and Canada. We did get the hydraulic disk brakes instead of the electric and also the ABS option. Steepest grade we've been so far probably 9% and no issues either up or down.

I agree with Jack Mayer…it's the best you can buy…but bring a big check when you go.

No major issues with our coach so far just about a year after delivery. I'm not all that impressed with their away from the factory warranty support…we had a slide mechanism bolt break this week. It was an easy repair but it was 125 bucks and their warranty/service guy is giving me troubles over reimbursement. He wants us to go to Lippert directly (despite the 2 year factory warranty)…but Lippert's warranty is (a) only a year from direct retail purchase and (b) specifically excludes third parties including the end user/buyer of the vehicle. Not sure how this will turn out yet…

Service at the factory (known to their owners as Camp Horizons) is pretty decent once they finally get around to actually scheduling your repair.

LIKENIT · RV-Dreams Community Member

I agree 100% with Neil & Connie and have toured the factory, plus they are a Christain family with convictions about honesty and doing the right thing. My next choice would be Peterson's Exel or NUWA products, but NUWA has been in and out of producing 5th wheels. So many of the quality high end 5th wheels have shut down because the consumer has bought into the glitz of some of the new 5th wheels and with lower much lower prices. The old adage, you get what you pay for hasn't changed unless you have paid too much. I purchased two 5th wheels new and both were at 70% of suggested retail. I would never trade for a new rig as that really clouds the transaction. Because manufacturers have labeled their products as being full time rigs does not equate to being built well enough to stand up to full time use. There are many new names in the market and many old quality established names that have closed like Travel Supreme, Carriage, King of the Road, Newmar 5th wheels to name some.
I would personally stay away from Keystone, Forrest River, Thor, Dutchman, Heartland and Fleetwood products in my selection process unless you plan to trade for a newer one every few years. Just my two cents, but I started RV life in 1960, researched them in depth from 1993 through 2007, when I purchased my last trailer and do not presently intend to buy another. If I was looking at buying another, I would look closely at what it might take to refurbish my present trailer with the updates I would like vs a new purchase. Depreciation with RV's is the downside of RV life. There are several newer names on the market since 2007 that I can not comment on if they are not made by the above mentioned manufacturers.

Jo And Craig · RV-Dreams Family Member

Likenit, I don't suppose you have an opinion about Luxury Lifestyle RVs? If so, would love to 'hear' your opinion.

cherylbrv · RV-Dreams Family Member

GENECOP wrote:
I am a Big Fan of Class 8 Truck Conversions. I have one, I love driving it, I love being in it. The Brands to consider are Renegade, Showhauler, NRC, Optima, just to name a few. These truck platforms are designed to travel the highways 1,000,000 miles and more, the engines are easily accessed, service can be performed at ANY Truckstop. And finally the most important factor is safety, in a serious accident having a hood and large Detroit Diesel engine in front of me makes me feel a lot safer.

Gene,

Thanks for posting this. I hadn't considered this before but looking at a few, they are NICE! Two quick questions -- what kind of price range are we looking at? I'm expecting something in the neighborhood of luxury motorhomes, starting at $250K and upwards. Next, since they look like (and mostly are) trucks, are special driving licenses required?

Thanks,

GENECOP · RV-Dreams Family Member

No special License required (believe it or not) yes your budget is accurate for new, there are some good used Rigs out there and because the high mileage engine and chassis you can get a real deal. Let me know if you have any other questions.

cherylbrv · RV-Dreams Family Member

Gene,

How long is your RV and do you have problems with where you can camp? How is maneuverability compared to a 5'er or MH?

GENECOP · RV-Dreams Family Member

45' long, I now have several thousand miles under my belt through numerous tight Camp Grounds, I am confident I can handle anything a full size Fifth can or a Large Motorhome. Of coarse there are many small State Parks and older private campgrounds that I would avoid , not everything out there is Big Rig Friendly....

Terry and Jo · RV-Dreams Family Member

Cheryl,

You may want to check with your state of domicile as some may require an extra requirement or two for one's license for that large of an RV.

Terry

LIKENIT · RV-Dreams Community Member

Mary, I have not looked at these in a research mode. They look very appealing. They are trying to connect their name with Carriage, which made great 5th wheels but went out of business. NUWA is offering them for sale at their factory and if NUWA is willing to put their name behind it as a full-time rig they would sell that is good enough for me. I would try to see if there is an owners forum

MarkS · RV-Dreams Family Member

Carriage, and all rights to the Carraige name, was purchased by Thor and became the Redwood brand. Meanwhile, many employees of carraige approached Evergreen to launch a new 5th wheel brand, Lifestyles. Evergreen hired 15 of them initially. About 85 additional carraige employees were being considered once the line became operational.

aussiesteve · RV-Dreams Family Member

Cedar Creek $50 to $70k price range I wish!!! cry

Here in little 'Downunder' land (Australia) a 2012 Cedar Creek 30RL, only two slide outs, no pretty fireplace, no point getting any bigger cause you can't fit it in any of our Caravan (Trailer) Parks cost waaaait for it $180,000.00. But for that price you get the entry door on the correct side (left) so you don't step out and get flattened by the traffic. Then there's the tow vehicle. Of course now that I have read Terry's post on how superior Ford F series are I only want the best F450 King Ranch its a real bargain at $152,000.00. But again you get the steering wheel on the correct side. You blokes and shela's make me laugh.

Must go time to squeeze myself back in to my 20' caravan sorry trailer. Wrap the blanket around my knees no furnace remember. But hey I can open the fridge and grab a beer, light the stove and cook a Koala (tastes like chicken) and do the washing up all without getting off my lounge. Bet you can't do that. wink