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Lee and I are early risers...Lee gets up stupid early, but others we have been with are more night owls. I was wondering where everyone stands on that and if anyone has a mixed marriage :) How;s that work if your not on the same schedule. I do know on the days I want to sleep in some, sometimes he's up and then I am up...it's a pretty small space. How do you handle group camping with others not on the same schedule??
Trace
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When with a group, the ones who speak up first set the time. So since Dave is a 'slow' riser, I alway let everyone know that if they are going to do something before 9:30 am , count us out. All of our friends now will refer to leaving on Dave time - which is 10:00 am - and it was amazing how everyone was willing to delay a little and have a second cup of coffee while we got ourselves together.
I get up early, usually have a walk and coffee before Dave starts stirring. If I wake him up - he'll roll over and go back to sleep. Unless it is 6:00 am, I don't worry about it because he needs to start waking up anyway.
Barb
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2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID
For us, the wife stays up late and starts REEEEEELLLLLYYYY slow in the morning . I like to be up early and on the move ( THIS WILL BE OUR BIGGEST ISSUE ONCE WE START FULL TIME
for now i have a secret method that works for us when we are on Vacation . i get up early and walk to where ever i have to go to buy a news paper.
I will buy 3-4 different papers and sit out side reading the different papers and then pull out may iPad and kill some time dealing with emails, this will normally kill a couple hours.(9:00)
After that i start to sing my morning song, MOVE IT, MOVE IT, MOVE IT let make product use of our time ( Boy you should see the looks i get) I hate starting my day at noon time ( I have a hard time getting going if we start slow)
This will be our biggest challenge once we retire
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The fulltime Dream begins, class of 2016
2016 Dodge Ram 5500 HD Classy Chassis hauler bed/air ride
Fortunately hubby and I are both early risers and early to bed. So in the camper it is not a problem. It only poses a problem socially when people ask us to do things that require us to stay up later.
I am a early riser, wife sleeps in. We are full timers and no problem. I try to be quiet and even cook breakfast some mornings. Take a BOMB to wake dw.
For us, the wife stays up late and starts REEEEEELLLLLYYYY slow in the morning . I like to be up early and on the move ( THIS WILL BE OUR BIGGEST ISSUE ONCE WE START FULL TIME for now i have a secret method that works for us when we are on Vacation . i get up early and walk to where ever i have to go to buy a news paper.
I will buy 3-4 different papers and sit out side reading the different papers and then pull out may iPad and kill some time dealing with emails, this will normally kill a couple hours.(9:00)
After that i start to sing my morning song, MOVE IT, MOVE IT, MOVE IT let make product use of our time ( Boy you should see the looks i get) I hate starting my day at noon time ( I have a hard time getting going if we start slow)
This will be our biggest challenge once we retire
Bob,
Why does it matter what time you start? You are only going about 200 miles or so - that is all you should be doing. Fulltiming means you don't have to get there and back in two weeks or less. It means taking your time. We follow the 2-2-2 strategy, 200 miles a day, in the park by 2:00 pm, and stay 2 or more days. BTW - if you leave about 10 am you will avoid the mass early morning exodus and by getting in the park by 2:00 pm, you will be all set up and can enjoy the afternoon drama as others pull in and set up. Barb
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Barb & Dave O'Keeffe
2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID
Our body clocks have been all over the place for the past several years, we guess it's an age/lifestyle thing? Have tried, herbal brews, not drinking after 'x' time, switching off TV's and computers, listening to music, reading, scratch pad for things on our minds besides the bed = nothing seems to change it. Tried herbal sleep meds they didn't work either, and we won't take prescribed stuff.
Farming we used to be up before sunrise, and to bed by 10.30pmish (younger, we needed less but deeper sleep and got way more exercise). Now we are lucky if either one of us gets to sleep within hour or two hours of hitting the hay, and then up again after two hours. Come 5am, we go off real deep, and struggle to get out the bed between 8am and 9am if schedules permit. Odd nights if I am staring at the ceiling come 1.45am, I'll just get up and go back to bed around 5am to 5.30am or crash on the couch.
Have noticed when we are RVing we tend to walk or bike tons and get a lot more fresh air, tending to go to bed earlier. Doesn't stop the getting up once or twice in the night but we do sleep a lot more soundly and get up earlier typically. So do believe it's a lifestyle thing that dictates how we rise and fall.
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One of the BIG advantages of having a MH - Let her sleep till she's ready to get up, even if you're already 100 miles down the road. Close the slides the night before, unhook and drive away and let her sleep.
Kev's the early riser. I'm the night owl. If we aren't moving, Kev just shuts the bedroom door when he gets up, and I go on sleeping. If we're moving, he wakes me up early. With a shower, I'm good to go. Fortunately, being sleepy doesn't tend to make me grouchy.
One of the BIG advantages of having a MH - Let her sleep till she's ready to get up, even if you're already 100 miles down the road. Close the slides the night before, unhook and drive away and let her sleep.
You're assuming that if the slides are pulled in they can use all of the MH the night before. Not true for all motorhomes. Plus, I don't think I could sleep with that big Cummins purring underneath me for 100 miles.
Barb
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2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID
Plus, I don't think I could sleep with that big Cummins purring underneath me for 100 miles.
Barb
Really that thing rumbles like a BASS drum. My wife thought she was going to lay down on the bed one day while travelling.................................She had to come up front to the couch. Hahaha
Since retiring two years ago I love to get up before sunrise. Not going to work makes the morning all mine to just read blogs, read Kindle, watch the sky change, walk the dog. Hubby still working another five weeks will sleep in until 7:30ish on the weekends. We both go to bed by 9 because we're on his work schedule.
He is a very sound sleeper, while I sleep much lighter, so it works well that I'll be the one up early ))
Unless we are going to meet up with others at a specific time, or have to wait to check in to a park, I plan to never look at a clock once we hit the road in June.
We took of the watches when we retired, haven't worn one since. We do have a 'clock' on the wall over the door in the MH to tell us what day it is. Cell phones will give us the time if we need it.
Barb
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Barb & Dave O'Keeffe
2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID
I'm an early riser and Eileen is a late sleeper. We both tend to stay up later than we want or should. I used to be a stupid early riser, but the bedroom in our MH is so dark I tend to sleep until 7 AM. Unless we have something scheduled Eileen will get up between 8 & 9. I relish the one to two ours of alone time. I can find plenty to keep me busy. Before we retired I usually arrived to work an hour before anybody else. Most days because of the constant interruptions I would get more done in that one hour than 4 hours of the work day.
Bill and my sleep schedules have been all over the place since we started this journey - when it's just us and one of us is up first (usually Bill) we will make the coffee and wait for the other person to get up - once coffee is in the air doesn't take long!
I think in a group setting - there is always a compromise - the early risers can wait a little while and the late sleepers can get up a bit earlier. Same in the evening - early to bed people can stay up a bit later and night owls can go in early, right?
Flexibility and compromise - those are the keys to the whole thing!
Around our place, it is Jo that is the early bird. However, since we've retired, she has occasionally laid in bed late (as much as 1:30 am) reading. I'm the night-owl that tends to stay up late. While she will also usually be the first up, I still don't have much of a problem rising early, if we have something that needs to be done or somewhere to go. I've always been able to go for pretty good periods of time with just a few hours of sleep. (Plus, I can lie down almost anywhere and take a quick nap, if needed.)
Terry
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Terry and Jo
2010 Mobile Suites 38TKSB3 2008 Ford F450 2019 Ford Expedition Max as Tag-along or Scout
Some have commented about sleeping in the bed or on the couch while the coach is moving. Please don't. A sudden turn or stop can make for a "rude" awakening. Same for walking around in the coach while underway. If the coach is moving everyone EVERYONE needs to be belted in.
In our coop, Ed is the early riser and I am the late sleeper. When he is ready he gets up goes to the living room and quietly does work on the computer or watches tv till I wake up. The only time it changes is when we have to check out early and then everyone is up. Fortunately we have a door from the living room to the bedroom and a nice dark bedroom to sleep in. We both tend to stay up way to late.
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Would someone explain what staying up way to late means? Is there someone monitoring bed time that I don't know about? We go to bed when tired, get up when we wake up and want to move around, or get up to make an appointment. But otherwise, we don't have anyone we have to answer to anymore.
Barb
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Barb & Dave O'Keeffe
2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID
Would someone explain what staying up way to late means? Is there someone monitoring bed time that I don't know about? We go to bed when tired, get up when we wake up and want to move around, or get up to make an appointment. But otherwise, we don't have anyone we have to answer to anymore.
Barb
Barb, you are AWOL from work. You remember work, right? They have their own "Work Ethic Thought Police" that are furiously attempting to recontrol your brain into being a good worker bee. That's what are clocks are for... to punch in and out, wake up time so you get to work and punch in.... they have been drumming it into your head since you were a kid...
Good heavens this was supposed to be a light, fun thread didn't realized people would feel so passionately about it. I would like to make one point...for those of us who are still working we do have clocks, and watches, and bedtimes 😄. I am looking forward to the day that is no longer an issue, but for right now that is my reality.
Where this really comes into play is if you ever want to travel with others. Your friends might be great fun to play cards with, but if they are ready to travel at 6AM and you are not ready until 10AM, you will not have a good time traveling together.
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I will not be traveling with anybody that is ready to drive out at 6 AM. we would have to be up by 4;30 to move out by 6, NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN IN RETIREMENT. We will meet you there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The fulltime Dream begins, class of 2016
2016 Dodge Ram 5500 HD Classy Chassis hauler bed/air ride
Great comments! We have had our own bedrooms, and it works well...even though my bedroom in the camper is about as big as my walk in closet, it's still mine!
Fortunately hubby and I are both early risers and early to bed. So in the camper it is not a problem. It only poses a problem socially when people ask us to do things that require us to stay up later.
Funny, after being at the boondocking rally for 4-5 days, we kind of got into the routine of up at dawn, sleepy/other stuff after dark
but I'm the night-owl, and Cheryl is up and working (she telecommutes) by 8am EVERY day (biological clock...)and she sometimes lets me sleep in!
I've found that my having a tablet in bed* (and going into bed at the same time as her) helps me get to sleep earlier, yet I can play/work in bed next to her!
*technically Two tablets in bed, his and hers! (but she always conks out by 10:30 that party pooper !)
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I've found that my having a tablet in bed* (and going into bed at the same time as her) helps me get to sleep earlier, yet I can play/work in bed next to her!
*technically Two tablets in bed, his and hers! (but she always conks out by 10:30 that party pooper !)
Yep me too...I've started going to bed earlier and getting up a bit earlier to be more in sync with Lee. I stagger it a bit though because he really likes some time to himself first thing in the morning
Chris and I have slightly off-set sleep preferences - but we're both solidly night owls. I tend to head off to bed around midnight or 1a - closing the door behind me and watching Star Trek re-runs (grin), and him an hour or two later. If we're working on a project, he loves working until sunrise. I generally get up a bit before him, and that's my time to get my stuff done. Works out well.
Our problem is being in groups of friends and/or at campgrounds with neighbors.
Just the other morning we posted a photo of sunrise we took from bed, with the tag 'back to sleep now'. Someone in our encampment took that as us being up, and came over around 8:30am pounding on the door and woke us out of dead sleep. Ugh. Made for a grumpy day... lesson learned, no more morning social media :)
We've also had fellow campers in a campground some knocking on our door at 9 am or so, again waking us, asking for tours of our bus (?!?), or to say hi because they recognize us from online or the worst... wanting tech support. (We actually had one campground get wind that we 'work on computers' and the office sent another camper to us to clean up a virus he got on his computer, at 8am!! For the record.. we use computers in our work, not work on computers.) Ugh. And this is with our drapes pulled shut, and our 'Quiet Please' sign up on the front door.
Really aggravating being night owls, sometimes day sleepers and working on the road, to be woken out of sleep because we get our zzzzs in the morning.
And let's not even get into having early bird neighbors who like having coffee meet-ups outside our bedroom window (oh, but how dare we have dinner outside on our picnic table at 9pm.)
Yup... the early bird versus night owl thing is one of the annoying little things, especially worse in tighter packed campgrounds. And the quiet time rules almost always favor the early birds.
Our solution? We love the boonies where we can mostly do our own thing. :)
Wow, Cherie.... Diana and I wondered just how much of that you guys get. You answered that question! We use the 'closed door' policy: if the door is closed, we don't knock. And if it is someone we haven't met in person and are really close with, we wouldn't stop and say hi unless you were outside.
Your "Quiet please" sign is too polite. Your sign should say "Go away, we don't want to see you now" or the redneck way "Knock at your own risk, intruders will be shot" or just hang one of those hotel signs "Do NOT disturb" under your "Quiet please"...
I'm the early riser but I like my peace and quiet until I'm ready to face the world. My DH can sleep until noon (or later) and he's certainly grumpy if someone wakes him unexpectedly. I wouldn't put it past him to yell out "Get the **** away from here!" He's not nice until he's had at least two cups of coffee.
The 'Quiet Please' sign was a nice thoughtful gift from a blog reader.. but perhaps we do need something more firm.
Probably something like... 'Don't Knock... Write us on RVillage.com' or 'We're Not Morning People' or 'Still Sleeping.. How About We Knock on Your Door at 3 am?' or 'You're Just Imaging This is a Vintage Bus.. It's really a Bounder in Disguise' or 'We Don't Do Windows' :)
And yup.. I love our chill time at home in the morning (ok, late morning for some of y'all). Not brushing my hair. Wearing a robe (or nuttin' at all). Or worrying about having the bus cleaned up and presentable for drop-by tours.
All and all ... we really DO love meeting people on the road. Just not in the morning, and write first.. please. :)
The 'Quiet Please' sign was a nice thoughtful gift from a blog reader.. but perhaps we do need something more firm.
Probably something like... 'Don't Knock... Write us on RVillage.com' or 'We're Not Morning People' or 'Still Sleeping.. How About We Knock on Your Door at 3 am?' or 'You're Just Imaging This is a Vintage Bus.. It's really a Bounder in Disguise' or 'We Don't Do Windows' :)
And yup.. I love our chill time at home in the morning (ok, late morning for some of y'all). Not brushing my hair. Wearing a robe (or nuttin' at all). Or worrying about having the bus cleaned up and presentable for drop-by tours.
All and all ... we really DO love meeting people on the road. Just not in the morning, and write first.. please. :)
First off I love your honesty...thanks for sharing that. What about a Do Not Disturb sign...maybe add "Work in Progress" to soften it a bit. It's universally recognized and when I first started working out of the house Lee actually bought a sliding one on the internet and mounted it to my office door that said Do not Enter and slid to Welcome because the girls simply could not help themselves and were constantly opening the door to talk to me when I was on conference calls etc. They were a bit taken aback at first but it worked and allowed me to set some boundraries...which as you know when you work at home you need.
Having many years of shift work experience and this is JMHO... There are many "well intentioned" people out there, that fail to actually think before acting. We've all, probably, done it to one degree or another at times. I completely sympathize with Cherie & Chris. No manner of signage, polite or vulgar, will stop the blissfully ignoramus (and I say that with a measure of kindness and humility) from imposing at the most inconvenient times for the "imposee". For their part, Technomadia, have in their own lighthearted way let the rest of us consciencious folks know to let sleeping dogs lay. Their case is a reminder for all the other situations out there, where imposing on others can be a selfish thing to do. Their method, in the fullness of time, may succeed as word gets around that the old GMC bus conversion with the Mini out front is off limits until there is at least one person outside the "residence" and even then, offers a wave or friendly hello in response to a greeting. It's not rude, it's not anti-social, it is... just the way it is. There's no reason to suppose everybody is also on the same schedule as you, even your own spouse... oh well. Patience is a virtue.
Just a thought but maybe something as simple as a sign in large enough font either hung on the door or those light wire lawn push in coroplast signs that aren't expensive to make up.
Workers On Wheels
Please DO NOT DISTURB!
Thank You For Respecting Our Privacy, And Schedules
As We Do Yours!
Social Availability: 3pm to 4.30pm
11pm to 1am (LOL)
Folks you personally know, know how you roll so they'll know what times they can risk popping by outside of those stated.
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My work has me getting up relatively early and almost always earlier than Dale. Luckily he's a sound sleeper, we make coffee the night before, set the timer, alarm goes off and I roll out of bed and head downstairs to work. I usually only turn the light on over my desk to try to not disturb him and he just goes back to sleep. For us, this was not a huge adjustment since before going FT I worked from home and my office was directly across the hall from the bedroom, he's gotten used to ignoring overhearing my side of the many, many early morning conference calls.
Of course he also tends to start work later in the day which leaves my early evening time as my free time to walk, read, craft, catch up on blogs, etc.
When we're traveling or camping with anyone else, they generally know that we both still work and have been pretty respectful of our schedules and if we make plans for evening activities they tend to defer to what works best for our work schedules. Letting people know your time constraints right up front helps everyone with the plans.