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Hi everybody, I'm Steve. I'm a gonnabe with the intent on it being sooner rather than later. I'm a single, 43 y.o. man who has had his eyes opened recently that there is a whole community of people who feel the same way as I do about the "American Dream". I have felt this way since I had my first corporate job and realized that I was selling hours of my life to someone else with the hopes that I live long enough to enjoy my freedom from my indentured servitude. This knowledge of voluntary slavery always puzzled me and I wondered how I was indoctrinated and how I could break my chains. But like most people I was apathetic and soon forgot my dreams for the paychecks I was getting. I was buying more and more and was less and less happy. After the recent financial freak out (Thanks Corporate America!) I, along with a large chunk of the US, was laid off from my last permanent, full time job. There went my credit, my house, my financial stability and all of the stuff I had bought because that's what I was told I wanted. After some time full of despair, frustration, anger and insecurity I moved back home with my tail tucked between my legs and all of my worldly belongings packed into my 2001 Dodge Neon.
Then a wonderful thing started to happen. REALIZATION. Along my trip home from the West to the East coast, as I drove through city after city, state after state I thought to myself "You are at rock bottom. If your car breaks down you are now a resident of whichever city you happen to be in. You have no house, no job and no "stuff"." Then I thought to myself "Wait... I have no HOUSE PAYMENT, No car payment, No cable bill, No electric bill." That thought was relieving, inspiring and freeing. While I realized I still had to pay back my former loans my chains were gone for the most part. But, being a good American, upon my arrival in my home state I quickly chained myself to the first offer for indentured servitude I found, like a good slave. Month after month, year after year I added more and more links to my chains and found myself in the same situation as I was in before. Until recently when I lost my job again. Now I find myself in a similar position but with more hope and a better outlook. I don't have much money saved but I am going month to month on my lease and I want to change my life and live it to MY advantage. I want to work when I want to work, live a simpler, purposeful life, have less things and have more freedom to do what I want and when I want. I am a gypsy by nature. I love living in new places, meeting new people and traveling this beautiful country. I hate HAVING to work everyday for someone else, following someone elses' rules and feeling chained down and used. I hate not having freedom.
Then something else started to come to light when I started vocalizing my wants and desires. People regurgitated everything I was trying to break away from. All of the insecurities we are instilled with from the age were we can understand them. You need to have a career. You need to have a house, car and 2.5 children with a pet.You need to work at one company for 40 years and THEN retire. When you're 65 if you're lucky. 65!?! I saw those kinds of people on my "vacations" from work. They were mostly sitting in their cars, driving through state parks where I was hiking. Standing on lookouts over where I was rock climbing and sitting in canoes in rivers and lakes where I was swimming. They would wave and smile at me and I swear I could see the look in some of their eyes wishing they could do what I was doing. I know I don't want to wait that long to LIVE my life. I don't want to be too old to live my life. THAT frightens me. We are not guaranteed a tomorrow. We are not even guaranteed the rest of today. That realization shakes me to my core and lights a fire under my ass.
So, I've decided not to do that to myself again. Now that I'm unemployed again, with my lease on a month to month basis, I'm starting to plan. I'm lucky enough not to have many bills (school loans, 2 credit cards, car insurance, cell phone) and a work history as a computer technician that I can take anywhere. But I'm still a little apprehensive. How is the best way for someone who has ZERO experience with rv's, travel trailers etc to get started? My first instinct is to jump in with both feet and swim my heart out. So I'm going to start my search for rent-to-own "mobile suites" (my new favorite saying) and go from there. I plan on combing through this website and others for all of the help I can get to get my life started.
I am looking forward to talking to and hopefully eventually meeting some of you guys, sharing tips and advice and living what I hope is going to be my new "American Dream". -Steve
-- Edited by RVNoob on Thursday 12th of June 2014 03:51:12 PM
***Update***
Well, it's been over a year since I posted this and what a long year it has been. Shortly after this post things started to hit the fan. Both of my parents health took a turn for the worse. I've been taking care of them (with the help of my sister) and have yet to begin my new life. But now that things seem stable again I'm refocusing. I've decided on getting a small 'Vardo' style wagon (10'x5') to start off with from a local business I found (www.amvardo.com) and to document my journey on YouTube under the handle 'The Hitech Hobo'. If all goes as planned I should have my new "rig" by this years' end. If you're interested, subscribe to my channel. I hope to see you guys on the road soon. -Steve
-- Edited by RVNoob on Tuesday 8th of September 2015 05:32:00 AM
Hi Steve. You sound determined and that's maybe all you need to be successful here. My dh had never even been inside a camper of any sort until we started researching this lifestyle in Febuary of 2013, and now we have been living full time in our fifth wheel since last fall.
We found work as Gate Guards in Texas, which might be a good choice for you while learning the ropes of rv living.
I have seen rvs advertised to rent while working here, so you could get familiar with the lifestyle and the details of the rig while earning a decent amount.
You won't travel as far or as often, but in many cases you will have an awful lot of time on your hands to do your computer stuff while on the job.
Given enough time you can save up enough to buy a rig and work on that credit score at the same time.
Good Luck!
I think you summed it up quite well for practically all of us here. Very well said and written. Welcome aboard, and all the best to you as you discover your new life!
Welcome steve!!!!
you have a better head start than I did!!.....I left town with a backpack and sleeping bag.....bought my first Winnie used and abused and never looked back......Remember home is where you park it!!!!
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Thanks for the warm welcome guys. Sorry if I was a little wordy but it was really stream of consciousness writing. Once I started it just came out until it stopped. Lol. Thanks for the encouragement and advice. I can't wait to share more news and experiences. Btw, I did find a site (www.familyrv.com/rent/rent-rto.shtml) which has their own lending services so it IS possible! Now, off to research Gate Guards in Texas!
-- Edited by RVNoob on Thursday 12th of June 2014 05:30:00 PM
Great post Steve. Another way to finance this life style is workamping. Workamper.com is a web site that will open your world of possibilities, many places offer jobs just for free campsites and others pay a small salary. You can travel all over the country or stay in one area and explore it thoroughly. My husband and I did this when we were about your age and we never "starved" or lacked for anything we needed. You will live a fuller life and you won't regret it.
Welcome!! Until attending an RV show, we hadn't been in an RV either. Almost exactly one year ago, I was stuck in a hotel room on a business trip, thinking there had to more to life that "this." I started researching RV life, budgets and founds this site and immersed myself in learning. A week later we signed up for the spring rally, attended a RV show in the fall, purchased our RV in December (picked it up in April enroute to the spring rally), sold the house in April, the majority of our stuff in the following weeks, and settled last week and moved into our RV at season site. We're planning on staying local for awhile while we figure things out, but after a week officially today, there's no doubt in my mind that we've done the right thing. Getting rid of the "stuff" was freeing and we're excited about our new life. Long story to say, we totally relate, and welcome aboard. Hope to see you on the road!!
Welcome! Along with many others I enjoyed your intro. Since taking up this lifestyle in the third act of our lives, I often wish I could un-indoctrinate our grown children from the life we taught them to live.
You will want to do some serious reading on frequent contributors to this forum, Chris & Cherie, www.technomadia.com. They have wonderful videos of folks who found different ways of working on the road and great links to other nomads.
In using this particular forum, you'll find it helpful to use the search feature in the blue bar near the top of the page to research your current subject, such as workamping. Also the website: workersonwheels.com has a free email service with job listings that you can sign up for. Finally, many RVers work seasonally at various warehouses at Amazon.
You'll find a way.
Sherry
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Welcome Steve, we also know your pain. My wife has worked for 5 different company's over the year's an all of then ended up closing. We are now in the process of selling off everthing but the rv & tow. We hope to be full timing by September. We were hoping for july. Slow market in our area. We live in a very small old mill town. So with that said we wish you good luck on your future plans.
Welcome Steve! Your questions will be answered in a very friendly manner here. Everyone will do their best to help you learn. Remember, "there is no right way to live this lifestyle". What works for me might not be the best for you, so adapt our knowledge to your life.
Thanks guys. I already feel like I'm part of a better community than I've ever been in before in the "Real World". I can't wait to get to know you guys in person.
Hi Steve...it does feel like a bit of an avalanche in the beginning. There's so many choices, so much information, so many variations on the dream it can be a bit overwhelming...fun though. As you navigate through everything a couple pieces of advice
1. Remember you don't have to do anything. This life is a choice and if a particular piece of it doesn't work for you ...go your own way...that's the whole point :)
2. This is a great group of people and I absolutely recommend you going to a rally to meet forum folks in person. It was a game changer for us
3. And this was hard learned for us..you are going to want to go go go and do do do now that you have discovered this. Be deliberate in the choices you make...you can jump in don't get me wrong but be deliberate and thoughtful. They are big life changing decisions.
I am more and more grateful to you guys. I honestly think I'm heading in the right direction. So far I have encountered openness, encouragement and understanding from you guys and that is SUCH a nice change from the norm. People are REALLY helpful, kind and non-judgmental. I just posted a new thread in Buying an RV with a request for opinions about how some of you like owning/living in a small travel trailer (eg: Scamp, Casitas etc) and if anyone actually lives and travels around in those "Tiny Houses" that are becoming more and more popular on the internet. I think that's the way I want to go with my first home.
Another thought is to stay away from any RV Shows. For me, I would just start to want things that I had never even thought of before. That is if you have a smaller budget as I do.
I was looking for a job I could do while traveling and scoping out recent model smaller motorhomes. After looking at so many online, I started craning my neck at every RV that I saw drive by ( I live in a popular tourist area, the Bighorn Mountains).
I then realized that most people out enjoying their RVs have earlier 2000-2004 models, also many '90s style motorhomes come through looking like they are running just fine. So why put the pressure on myself to buy a new one?
As you study RVs you will start to know what brands are most solidly built and can get an older one of those.
Wow Steve nice job...and I agree you summed up how many of us feel. Plus I love you tagline "I don't want to wait any longer to live my life" that really says it all. Thanks for reminding me what started all this for us to begin with. Two years ago our best friend died at the age of 46 and we realized we might not have as much time as we always thought we would. Plus Lee has always thought the "American Dream" was crap (took me a little longer to get with the program) and "getting out of line" really appeals to both of us. That being said, as we have learned more and watched friends go on the road...it is important to say you still take yourself with you. You get to change your circumstance, but to really change your life requires a change of self. For me that will not happen overnight, but I definitely feel I am moving in the right direction.
Hi Steve! Welcome to the wonderful; exilerating; and sometimes crazy world of RVing! Search; Research and Search again! Do a budget; then cross out the items you can live without. Find a monthy budget you can get comfortable with. I started out with an old 1975 GMC Class C that most otheres may have scrapped. It ran good but needed brakes, 6 tires and complete maintenance from bumper to bumper and almost complete renovation to the inside. Took me 14 months of weekends and a few hours each evening after my regular employ to make it road worthy. I had the dream like you to gain the elusive freedom from normal societal ways of living. In 2000 I started my adventure at the age of 49. I worked for a couple of RV jobs I located in the Workamper news magazine. Then I located employ that lasted about 8 years; renting golf carts on the road for another employer. Acquired a 1988 E-350 Ford Motorhome in 2005 and put about $4,000.00 into it and in the fall of 2009 at the age of 58.5 the company downsized and there I was searching for employ and the start of work camping for the next 3 yrs. traveled from job to job and enjoyed some great times stopping as i pleased; staying as long as I wanted and enjoying some of the bounty.
I had to force myself out of the workcamping gig after my health decided to dwindle; but as I recover One day that elusive 'dream' will become reality again!
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Great post, and summed up a TON of how my thinking has been on this so-called 'American Dream' for a while now. I, too, am 43 and don't want to live in the hamster wheel anymore, just living to feed their machine. Life is too short!! I lost my husband when he was 40 and it really pains me to know there was so much he missed out on because he was always working. So since then, I've sold a house, downsized a lot of possessions (still have some to go I am working on), magically stayed out of debt from his medical bills fighting cancer (probate doesn't really let you keep much, but at least I don't owe), found an older class C RV that I am working towards outfitting to live in. Still working towards the income aspect while on the road. But for now, at least, working towards something is better than just living day in, day out, going to a job that isn't satisfying just to buy stuff that never really makes you happy.
Am aiming to hit the rally in Arizona in January to meet up with some like minded folks and get out of town a few weeks. Am hoping to learn from their experiences. Can't wait!!! One of these days I will be out there, too, full time and living a different dream than the one 'They' have programmed for us.
Thanks guys, it's good to hear from you. Here's an update: I've officially moved out of my apartment and now my brother rents it. It worked out perfectly that he was needing a place to live as I was looking to lighten my load. I also got the chance to leave him most of my stuff (TV stand, coffee table, rugs etc) that I would have had to sell or throw out but now I know they'll be put to good use and appreciated, which is a big part of my new focus; To live consciously.
I've gotten some money saved up but haven't' decided what I want to get yet. I attended "America's Largest RV Show" in PA this past month and really appreciated the ability to check out all forms of rv's (except for fiberglass for some odd reason) and sizes and I've decided I can't be comfortable in anything less than a 25 footer but I don't want to go bigger than 28 ft. I'm still looking for a trailer and not a class c only because I'd like to leave my residence elsewhere while I go grocery shopping etc and I don't want to have to worry about 2 vehicles.
As of today, I'm looking into RV parks in my area to rent a space in. As for work, I'm focusing on contract assignments as I feel they give me the freedom I'm looking for. The assignment I'm on now will be ending in December and that will free up my holidays for travel and visiting family/friends in warmer climates!
To get back to the RV show for a minute. I was REALLY excited to see the variety of manufacturers and the styles of RV's. I got to check out the T@B as well as Little Guy and some other non-traditional styles. There were also some retro RVs there which just does something to me, stirs up this nostalgia for a time in which I didn't even live. My spirit was lifted and the world seemed like it had a new sheen on it. I was impressed also with Winnebago and their retro line of RV's. The Airstreams were everything I had pictured and anticipated but were so out of my price range it almost dampened my spirits. But it didn't.
Another trend I saw, which I'm not a fan of, is the "slide-out". All I see is another area for the weather to intrude. Another big hole in the side of the trailer. Like I mentioned I didn't get to see any fiberglass models for some reason. I was hoping to see the Oliver lineup or a Casita or Scamp. There were none to be found. Anyone know the reason for it? I don't want to make a decision until I check them out.
Ok folks, until I have another update (hopefully one where I purchase my new living quarters) I'll be signing off. Take care and talk to you soon!
I'm almost there! I've gotten the ball rolling and I'm THIS close. I started a YouTube channel to document my progress. Please check out TheHitechHobo on YouTube and subscribe to my channel. Any and all sorry is appreciated!