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SnowGypsy


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I worked at New Horizons in the office in the mid-90s for 3 years with the original owner and designer, Harold Johnson. Before I started working, one of the early ones had delamed and that was their "learning" experience. BUT in those 3 years I was there no one had such a problem. I can say that I saw very, very few issues during the time that the original owner was there. He used to stay a couple of hours after everyone left in the back "prowling" around the shop. He was a wonderful man and would always do everyone right. I see units produced during the time that he was there and if I were in the market for a 5th wheel, I would not hesitate to grab one up. I saw one at PPL online yesterday. He used to get up on the roof, at age 70, and stomp around to show the strength of the roof and my supervisor would say "If someone sees that, they'll probably come lock him up.! So funny! One of the units went through the worst hail storm that I ever seen, our entire town was hail damaged. All of our vehicles were hail damaged and our upstairs windows were broken out as were the neighbors - the hail went through the screens and broke the glass! The New Horizons 5th wheel suffered a broken vent on top, nothing else so............. I don't see a 2005 delaming that way as a maintenance issue on an RV with that price tag.

I decided to send them the link to the ad since I think it should be brought to their attention.  But, know too, that sometimes people will let a problem go and not contact the manufacturer and I have no idea why because I am the worst nightmare when it comes to demanding value for my dollar.



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I was looking through some New Horizons to see what used ones look like, and this one came up.  Is this what delamination looks like?  

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2005-New-Horizons-34RL-110494996

 



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Yes, thats delam.

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Wow...I thought that New Horizons were supposed to hold up a lot better than that...it's only 8 years old...

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not only is that delamination ....but I'll bet it had one hell of a leak to cause it!!!!!

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Its lack of maintaince. It doesn't matter the brand, if its not taken care of and maintained, it will rot away.

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That's just about the worst case of delam I've seen.

I'm guessing a semi truck and trailer going by at 200 miles per hour may have caused that much delamination.

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Wow...I had always heard of it, but never had seen it. So....leaks are the main cause?

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...may have been parked next to a very large bonfire!



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Any RV can have a delamination problem - which is what that is (as others have said). I would "guess" that was caused by a leak, but there is no way of knowing without looking at it. The areas that it is in are areas where a leak would typically occur and that need regular maintenance.

I have seen a few examples of delamination on New Horizons, but nothing like that. In those cases the manufacturer took care of the issue. EVERY RV manufacturer has some cases of delam, from time to time. It is usually faulty base materials. Often bad glue, or the sometimes the manufacturing process goes awry and the end result is a delam. It could be a variety of root causes in these cases.

Remember that New Horizons build a very strong and sound unit backed by a 5 YEAR structural warranty. That is probably the longest in the industry. So they do believe in their manufacturing process and back it up.

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Well, for most, we'll be wondering how common this problem is now in the NH. A few for such a small manufacturer? This unit looks like it should have a salvage title! I am confused how it can be a maintenance issue since the back and one side did not seem to be delamed.

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if you look closely it is forward and is on the seams...in another picture you see the closet and toward the bottom center I see discoloration....Water mark?....also see delamination in the refrigerator area....possible drain tube blockage or draining into the compartment.....to the rear possible sink leak?......bottom line for the year , bad Maintenance....it all didnt just appear ....yearly seam sealing & roof maintenance was not done and looking at the forward area , a tri-pod or support was not used ...good example of what can happen

whats even Sadder is the dealer has it on his lot advertising and pricing it like the damage doesnt exist......bet he does a ton of sales and has a great reputation!!!...................NOT!!

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The price is well below NADA, about 1/2 so the dealer realizes it is not the most desirable unit. What I have read is that the only real fix is to replace the entire piece, side, end, etc. I have seen people try to glue it, injecting glue and it doesn't work or I haven't seen it work. I bet I have seen 1,000 or more units and the only other that I have seen with serious delam, a HR Savoy TT was about 1/2 as bad as this NH. I am, of course, more disappointed than most since I had worked for the original owner and was so familiar with the units at that time. I did read here in an earlier topic that the glue was changed and wonder when that took place.

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