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We just purchased a new Boily Pro3600 SiE inverter generator for a mission trip. We will need the A/C a LOT for about 5 days non stop and we wanted to minimize weight so this Boliy generator looked like it could meet our needs. I searched the web and read dozens of posts, visited numerous sites and discovered the following prior to making our purchase:
The product has been out for about 5 years now. Most of the older reviews from 2007 and 2008 were less favorable and as the reviews become newer, they were much more positive. This told me the company plans to be around for the long term and thus they were quickly responsive to update and make changes and improvements as needed. Our purchase in June of 2011 was hopefully for a product with all of the bugs worked out at a great value.
The Boliy Pro3600 SiE is particularly made for an RV. Inverter power is clean and safe for even sensitive electronics such as laptops. The Boily goes one step beyond with a true digital invertor. There is a 30amp RV receptacle just like at every campground. You can just plug your RV power cord right in and you are on your way. The Boily has 3000 watts of continuous power and 3300 surge and 28 amps. They claim 8.5 hours at 1/2 load on a 2 gallon gas tank. The unit weighs only 75lbs with an electric starter.
Once we got serious about making the purchase, we found no one within several states who sold these generators so we looked at the 3 or 4 major online sources. All seemed adequate, but we kept going back to www.bottomlinetrading.com out of Texas. The only thing their site lacked that one other had was .pdf files of the manuals for the Boliy generator. They were running a special of $100 off plus free shipping so I decided to call them to check their responsiveness since they are an online retailer and I live 18 hours away from them. Frankly I was thrilled with the service. I spoke with the owner, Tommy, for about 25 minutes and listened and took notes as he PATIENTLY answered my far too many questions. He has been selling these since they came out and knows every wire, nut, bolt, tip and trick to these generators. I figured if his service after the sale was even in the ball park with his communication on this side of the purchase I would be safe if I had any problems.
The generator arrived in about a week. I was told up front that would be the case as the family was taking a much needed vacation. My unit arrived VERY well packaged from FedEx. Out of the box the Boily Pro3600 Sie was impressive. It is light (75lbs) and well built. All of the faux paus of the past seem to be long past and fixed. I filled it with .6qt of 10W 30 and a couple of gallons of 87 unleaded and it started right up.
After about 1/2 hour, the generator stopped. I tried to restart until the battery was exhausted then tried the pull cord for a while. I checked the choke and the oil level and then decided to call the company. I left a detailed message at 6:30pm on a friday evening Texas time and hoped they would return my call the next day. To my thrilled surprise, Tommy, the owner, returned my call in about 15 minutes. He was calm, reassuring and helpful. He walked me through several checks and we identified a wire coupling that had come loose in shipping. I simply snapped it back together and the generator cranked on the first pull and has been running great ever since. I'm really OK with this minor setback given the fantastic price of the unit and the fact that it made it from China to Texas and then to Georgia and one wire shook loose. Not a big deal and again, Tommy at Bottom Line Trading is worth his own weight in gold for customer service as far as I'm concerned.
The Boliy Pro3600 Sie with the "Economy" switch turned OFF per the instruction manual, fired up my 15K BTU A/C and never flinched. We turned on the fan first, then the compressor and turned the thermostat all the way down so the compressor would not start and stop wasting fuel to restart it. Running constantly uses WAY less electricity than start / stop. The noise was remarkably acceptable. With the Boliy hooked up and running, sitting right outside the door of our RV, we could not hear it AT ALL with the A/C running. Outside, I think their description of 58db max was right on. Maybe less and certainly not offensive to anyone who was more than 15 feet away.
The next step is to drill out the gas cap and install a marine fitting for an auxilliary fuel tank so we can run the Boliy for 15 to 20 hours at a time without refueling thus allowing us to easily sleep through the night. That's on the books for tomorrow morning.
Our mission trip is in 2 weeks and I will post again afterward to report how the Boliy performs in harsh conditions for a protracted period of time. Keep us in your prayers please.
-- Edited by MrPiper on Saturday 11th of June 2011 01:49:16 PM
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OK, now with all of the bugs worked out here are the instructions on "How To" for adding an extended run auxiliary fuel tank to the Boliy Pro3600 SiE 2012 modelwith special thanks to Tommy at www.bottomlinetrading.com for answering questions as I worked through this solution. That is where I bought the generator and I can HIGHLY recommend them for service before AND AFTER the sale.
Parts needed:
$50.00 Wal-Mart
2 each plastic female marine fuel quick connectors
2 each brass male marine fuel connectors
1 marine siphon hose with bulb 6' X 3/8"
1 (2pack) of 1/4" barbed to 1/4" female steel air hose quick connectors (but you will only use one of them)
1 small tube of silicone sealant
$30.00 Amazon.Com 1 Atwood or equivalent 6 gallon marine fuel tank
$25.00 Any "Lawn Mower" shop
1 steel 1/4" barbed end 3/way T-valve (fuel valve)
2 feet of 1/4" black rubber fuel hose
6 spring type fuel clamps.
1 small red “briggs & stratton” fuel filter
$5.00 Lowe's 1 12 pack of screw type 1/4 to 5/8" hose clamps.
Procedure:
Apply a film of silicone sealant to the threads of one of the male brass marine fuel quick connectors and thread it into the exit port of the Atwood 6 gallon marine fuel tank.
Attach the two plastic female marine fuel connectors to the siphon hose ends using 2 screw type hose clamps.
Remove the “service panel” from the left side of the generator opposite the exhaust pipe by using a Phillips screw driver to remove the 4 screws.2 short at the top and 2 long screws at the bottom.
Make a mark 3” to the left and 1” above the bottom right screw hole and drill a 3/8” hole at that mark
Use a hand saw or “skill saw” to cut the left side of the vent flap second from the left on the top row.
Sit the panel aside for later.
Cut 2 – 8” pieces of the black rubber fuel hose.
Insert 1 of the chrome plated steel ¼” air hose quick connectors into one end of one of the hoses and secure it with a screw type hose clamp.
Apply a film of silicone sealant to the second male brass marine fuel quick connectors around the threads and thread it into the female end of the steel ¼” air hose connector.
Insert the other end onto the LEFT side of the 3/way T-Valve and secure with a screw or spring type hose clamp.
Cut the second piece of 8" fuel line in half and install the Briggs and Stratton fuel filter securing with 2 hose clamps. (the filter should be replaced every other year or when fuel flow is diminished)
Insert the second piece of 8” fuel line with the filter installed to the BOTTOM of the T-Valve and secure with a screw type or spring type hose clamp.
Close off the fuel line from the gas tank using the white plastic clip attached to the line.
Remove the other end of the main fuel line from the “on/off” valve on the right side using a pair of needle nose pliers to release the hose clamp, then connect that end of the hose to the RIGHT side of the T-Valve using a hose clamp, then you can release the plastic fuel clip on the line between the fuel tank and the T-connector but be sure the T-valve is in the “off” position or the fuel tank is empty.
Attach the hose from the BOTTOM of the T-Valve to the “on / off” valve on the right side where you removed the original fuel line and secure with a spring type hose clamp using a pair of needle nose pliers.
Insert the auxiliary fuel line with the brass marine quick connector through the open vent on the left side of the service panel.
Insert the T-Valve into the 3/8” hole and secure it with the washer and nut included.
Re – attach the service panel with the 4 screws.
Since the Boliy Pro3600 SiE does not have a fuel pump, you will have to have a gravity feed so the tank must be set above the level of the carburetor. You also MUST open the vent valve on the gas cap of the Atwood marine tank. I use a small plastic folding table that fits easily into one of the storage compartments in our RV.
Attach the fuel connect quick connects to the tank and to the generator and pump the bulb 3 times.Make sure the main valve on the generator is “on” then turn the T-Valve to the LEFT for the auxiliary tank,RIGHT for the main fuel tank on the generator or DOWN for the “off’ position.
Perhaps I didn't read it all correctly, but is that set up as a quick connect/disconnect or does one have to disconnect the tank and extra lines from the generator by removing a hose clamp? Is there a shut-off valve at the Atwoods "supply" tank on the line going to the generator to keep from losing fuel from the tank if one had to move everything for any reason?
If it is a case of a hose clamp, this system would be pretty good if one is staying in one place for quite a while. Also, I would guess that you would also have to have yet another fuel can with which to refill the Atwood's "supply" tank for the generator. Am I correct with that assumption?
Terry
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The system is all "Quck Connect." The marine connectors at either end of the siphon hose just snap on and snap off. Then you just turn the 3/way valve to the right and run off of the main tank which will run my 15K BTU Rooftop Dometic A/C unit for 5.5 hours. That should give you plenty of time to take the 6 gallon atwood tank to get a refill.
As far as the atwood tanks having a shut off valve, since you have more or less permanently installed the male brass marine connector, that is your shut off. When you disconnect the the quick connect on the siphon hose from the brass male, the male connector closes tight.
I own 2 of the 6 gallon atwood tanks and have a 5 gallon regular gas can as well. I can just unsnap the marine connector from 1 tank and snap it to the other and run for another 16.5 hours. I use the 5 gallon tank to refill the regular tank. With both 6 gal tanks, the 5 gal tank and the 2 gal main tank, I have about 50 hours of summer run time with the A/C runnning full time. I haven't tested it, but based on my experience and the Boliy specs, it looks like I would get about double that time in the winter without the A/C running.
No, they are air cooled and need air space around them to perform properly. They are not designed to be permananetly enclosed in a compartment.
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This post came at a good time for me as I am in the market for a generator and the Boliy was on my short list. The biggest drawback was the small fuel tank. We normaly boondock in the summer months and it would be nice to be able to run the a/c all night if we needed to.
I decided to order the Boliy and do the mods discribed here. I went and picked up everything on the parts list locally except the fuel valve. I went to 3 lawnmower shops, a marine supply shop, 3 differant auto parts places and all the hardware stores. The lawn mower guys say they have "heard" of them but could not locate anything in their catalogs.
I searched on the internet and could only come up with heavy brass 3 way fuel valves for marine use. I kept searching though and after trying several different searchs I stumbled on this:
Looks the same as what Mr. Piper used so I ordered it and just wanted to post a source in case anyone else wants to do the mod as well and can't find the valve. I have since found one on ebay as well.
So now I have all the parts and the genny should be delivered Monday so will do the mods next week
Phil
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I hope you get very good service from your Boliy. We just got back from our first long trip (2 weeks) using the generator about 15 hours a day for the 15K BTU A/C, fridge and lights. For no reason that I can find, the generator, while still running, stopped producing power (tripped the breaker) a couple of times, but it was probably because of the load I was running. Other than that, we had great service.
While away, I made one observation you may want to consider when modifying your Boliy: I put the auxiliary line through the vents primarily for asthetics. I just didn't want to drill another hole and that seemed like an easy solution. Having said that, I would suggest you drill another hole, AS HIGH AS IS FUNCTIONAL on the upper left side so you have better gravity flow. I would suggest it to be at least parallel to the 3 way on the left side.
We had our unit quit a couple of times for poor flow and here is the solution: 1.) Make sure the inlet of the marine quick connect on the generator is pointing UP, not sideways and certainly not down. This can be done with a bit of duct tape on the inside where it can't be seen.
2.) we bought a folding TV tray table to sit the gas can on to give the gravity feed extra height. The small table in the picture was OK, but the TV tray ran the tank empty for sixteen solid hours with no problems. A/C running the entire time.
I hope this is helpful and you get to read it before you modify your new unit. If not, the way I did it works just fine, just keep the inlet pointed up and make sure you have a good gravity feed.
Mark
-- Edited by MrPiper on Saturday 23rd of July 2011 06:11:40 PM
The reason I didn't go that route is that the new model has a 2.25" autovented metal gas cap. Even if you order an extra cap, and drill it out, you still have the problem of the spring vent. What that means is that the decreasing fuel level will NOT create a vacuum to pull in the auxiliary fuel because the cap is vented around the sides via a coil spring like an old style motorcycle cap. The reason the other systems work is because you are actually drilling out the screw vent in the center of the cap and thus creating an airtight seal around the auxiliary inlet such that there is a vacuum as the fuel level drops.
Having said that, I searched every motorcycle, lawn mower, ATV store and internet dealer to try to find a cap that could work and if you have any luck in that department PLEASE let me know. I do believe that is a BETTER way to do this type of modification, I just couldn't find the right parts and the Boliy dealers (I spoke with 4 of them) had no suggestions other than try to buy the older model with the plastic gas cap.
Either way, the set up I have listed works well and is simple enough for a novice (of which I certainly am one) to do themselves. Still, I am ALWAYS open to suggestions! Thanks for the reply.
Thanks in part to the reviews on this page we just bought a Boliy generator from Bottom Line Trading in Austin. We are using it today to see how it works and have no complaints so far. We bought the 4 way remote and the extra fuel set up. We have not used the extra tank yet but will on our next trip out. I left the instructions for the unit at home so we haven't gotten the full use of it, I am sure we can change modes by remote, just not sure what button. I would call Tommy but it is Sunday and I hate to disturb him, he has taken VERY good care of all our needs and questions. His shop in Austin is a nice setup and very well run, we enjoy every visit we have paid to them.