Hi Everyone. Well, after 15 years the RV-Dreams Community Forum is coming to an end. Since it began in August 2005, we've had 58 Million page views, 124,000 posts, and we've spent about $15,000 to keep this valuable resource for RVers free and open. But since we are now off the road and have settled down for the next chapter of our lives, we are taking the Forum down effective June 30, 2021. It has been a tough decision, but it is now time.
We want to thank all of our members for their participation and input over the years, and we want to especially thank those that have acted as Moderators for us during our amazing journey living and traveling in our RV and growing the RV-Dreams Family. We will be forever proud to have been founders of this Forum and to have been supported by such a wonderful community. Thank you all!!
If you’re reading this, there’s a good chance that like us, you too have made the decision recently that you’d like to get into the RV lifestyle, part time or maybe even full time, and have begun your pursuit of that goal. I imagine you’re here hoping to learn enough to keep your misteps to a minimum. Deciding to jump into this whole RV thing can be overwhelming and downright scary. My wife and I made our decision some months ago, (well over a year ago actually), and I thought that by chronicling our own experience (we’re getting awfully close), it might help others in some small way, and if nothing else, it helps me mellow out my excitement a little and calm my nervous trepidations as we get closer to reaching our goal.
Now, while we definitely consider ourselves to be novices when it comes to the RV lifestyle, I should explain that's it actually not our first rodeo, although the “horses” we rode back when were much smaller and tamer than they seem now. Our first trip in an “RV” was a short vacation in a borrowed tent trailer. My wife and I, along with the in laws (who had never camped in their lives), and three of our four “bb in a box car” kids, camped for a week in a campground on the Oregon Coast. Enough said. In spite of that, a short time later, this would be about ten to twelve years ago (okay maybe longer than that...twenty?), we purchased a 32 foot Airex class A gas motorhome, and for several years used it mostly for weekend camping trips, as well as getting to and from the four boys’ baseball and basketball games. We enjoyed the dickens out of that rig, and in fact, with the youngest of our four sons, lived “full time” in her for several months waiting on the construction of a new home. Again...enough said. But...over time, things changed, we found we weren’t traveling as much, and decided to sell the motorhome.
The years past, and now thankfully, we’re nearing retirement, in pretty good health...the boys are all grown up and out on their own, and after considering all the possible options, the wife and I agreed that we wanted to travel the country for a few years and see the world through the windshield of a comfortable RV.
And so the process began....
We started by sitting down and establishing a time line. Knowing we had sticks and bricks to sell, and all the downsizing that comes with it, it was going to take a little time. We had to make sure we’d be prepared financially as well. Our ideal goal was to be in our RV and on the road sometime during the fall or winter of 2016, or at the very latest in early 2017.
Knowing we had a ton to learn, I set about my research, and before long stumbled across the RV-Dreams Forum here. It didn’t take long to realize the huge wealth of information available on every imaginable topic, and during my research endeavored to absorb as much as possible. There are plenty of forums and other resources out there on the Internet, and you’ll find them if you haven’t already, but I’d wager that the folks who make up the core of this forum are amoung the most knowledgeable, well intentioned and caring authors there are on the Internet, and before I go further, let me just say thanks to everyone whose posts I’ve read over the past months. It goes without saying that my first suggestion... if you're just starting out, is to learn your way around the RV-Dreams forum, settled in with your favorite brew, and begin your study. If you haven’t already registered, do so, introduce yourself to everyone, ask lots of questions and join in the discussions.
At the same time that I began researching the various forums, I also wanted to identify as many dealer resources along with where to find private sellers that I could...where to start shopping. And I soon discovered there’s plenty to be found, including such websites as RVTrader.com, RVT.com, Craiglist, and yes ...even Ebay just to mention a few. Nearly every commercial RV dealer in the country maintains an inventory on their own website. You’ll find them and private owners listing RV’s on these various sites. Acting on the advice found here, we kept our ears open for RV shows and expos, and absolutely wore ourselves out on many an afternoon exploring acres of RV’s on display at these various exhibits. As tiring as that was, it was the only way that we’d able to reach a decision regarding what type of RV we thought we’d want.
It didn’t take too long for us to decide we wanted a motorhome, (rather than a trailer or fifth wheel)...a Class A, diesel pusher, 36 to 40 feet in length, 2006 or newer, (we did not want to buy new...for several reasons.... but new vs. used... that’s a whole discussion for a topic on its own, and you’ll several of those throughout the forum), and we wanted something with under 50k miles. Fiscally, we set a budget of something under $130,000. After comparing the various manufacturers, including researching company history, consumer satisfaction, floorplans, reliability, affordability, etc, we further narrowed our preferences down to two manufactures including Newmar and Tiffin. Given our finanical goals, we kind of figured we’d be looking at an entry level Newmar, or a Tiffin Phaeton (though I secretly held out hope for an Allegro Bus - it has options that I preferred over the Phaeton, but sadly...more expensive.) I then registered these criteria into all the aformentioned web sites and began shopping around mostly on the Internet. We knew that we had some months before we would start to feel “desperate” and agreed that unless a truly perfect deal on a perfect RV presented itself, we’d be patient.
I began nearly everyday over the past ten to twelve months, routinely opening up the inbox, checking the alerts, and reviewing ads for units that fell within our criteria. At the same time, we put the word out to friends and relatives (including some RV’rs) around the country, and had them keeping an eye out for RV’s with “For Sale” signs in the window and checking the bulletin boards in their home park or places they visited. I continued to study the forums, paying particular attention to topics that focused on the particular models we were interested in. I researched topics including financing, insurance, maintenance issues, RV parks and boondocking and others. I watched every RVGeeks.com video several times over, as well as every video and article posted by the other great bloggers including “GonewiththeWynns.com” and “Technomadia.com” just to mention a few. In spite of my efforts, when it comes to a knowledge base, I realize it’s a big learning curve and I’ve only scratched the surface.
As spring of this year approached, we felt we were finally just where we needed to be financially, and started to get “serious.” Maybe the RV gods were watching, or it was just blind luck, but it took less than a week before we learned of a rig that seems to be a perfect fit. She’s a 2007 40' Allegro Bus, with about 40K in miles, well maintained, lots of the extras we’d hoped for, loved by the current owners, and within our price point. I quickly got on the phone with the owners and following several conversations, my wife and I agreed this was one we needed to take a stab at. We made a conditional offer, which the current owners have accepted. We were tickled to death!
Whoops...hold on....the only problem is, we’re in Portland Oregon and she’s parked in San Antonio Texas, 2000 miles away! Way too far away for a weekend jump in the car and drive kinda trip.....Now some might consider that a possible deal breaker, but again, learning from the advice gained here on RV-Dreams, we realized from the get go when it comes to RV’s you likely not going to find that dream RV in your own back yard, and you gotta be ready to travel, or you may very well end up settling for less.
And so... here we are. We’ll be hopping on a flight to San Antonio on Tuesday. We’ll meet the owners, take a close, up front and personal look at the Allegro, give her a test drive, ask lots more questions, and as folks here will advise you, we’ve arranged for a full coach inspection by an certified RV tech, just to make sure there’s nothing to worry about. Assuming all goes well, we’ll be handing over a check before returning to Oregon on Friday. The RV will stay in Texas for about three weeks until we get a few more “Oregon” ducks lined up, and then we’ll fly back down and drive her home! Needless to say, we’re both terribly excited.
I should add that there’s one other thing that’s convinced us that this is the right RV for us, and willing to gamble with at a minimum a fairly spendy plane trip to see her, and that’s the sound impressions made upon us by the current owners. Buying from someone you respect and trust is huge. You might say it takes more than a few phone calls and emails to formulate an true opinion about someone, but the feel you get from your seller during those initial phone calls, emails and text messages is something to pay attention to, and based on my interactions with our seller so far, I’ve developed a certain level of confidence and respect for those folks on the other end of the line... my gut tells me they’re good folks who’ve cared for and loved their RV. Just sayin....
I’ll post an update after or maybe during our San Antonio visit. With any luck, before not too much longer we'll actually be "off to smell the roses." I hope you’ve enjoyed reading about our own little experience, maybe you’ve gotten a pointer or two, and if you like us, just now getting started in the wonderful and fascinating world of RV travel, best wishes for you on you're own journey. Safe Travels!!
Jim
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-- Edited by Offtosmelltheroses on Sunday 10th of April 2016 02:34:43 PM
Best of luck, we lived in Seattle, bought our truck in Nampa I D and 5th wheel in OK. Takes a bit more coordination but in the end we got the floor plan and rig we wanted.
As we were approaching San Antonio Airport around midnight two nights ago, we found ourselves flying right through the middle of one of the worst lightning/rain/hail storms in recent San Antonio history. Later that night, and early the following morning we watched all these reports of very heavy storm damage throughout the San Antonio area from the high winds and softball size hail. Needless to say I didn't sleep much that night, wondering if our dream RV was gonna end up looking like the skin on golf ball. We had scheduled later that morning to meet the current owners, go through the coach, take her on a test drive, and finally, have the RV Tech go through her. Long story short....although the storm did hit her, she came through it perfectly. (A coach parked right next door suffered a shattered windshield and some other damages. Ours....NO damage at all.....she looked great. During our inspections, neither we or the RV tech could find a thing wrong. Everything works perfectly, very detailed maintenance records, etc. She's absolutely beautiful! We've heard and know of all the horror stories out there, and (to this point) we consider ourselves to be very blessed, and indeed lucky to have found this coach. The plan is to meet in three weeks in Salt Lake City take possession there and drive her home to Oregon. yeehaaa!
Jim and Deb that's an awesome story. You have to be excited and relieved to have gotten the buying decision over with. We are leaning towards buying used. A friend lucked out four years ago and ran into a deal on a one year old dually truck and Cedar Creek fifth wheel. I'm sure a lot of the extra parts (hoses and such) came with it. The owner had decided to go fulltime but after a year was forced off the road, unfortunately due to health issues. We met at a local campground last year and the rig still looked good.
Ours is a similar story, though we're actually the third owner. The first owner developed health issues, forcing a sale, and the second owners, after a year, opted for a yet larger coach. Both took great care of the coach while they owned it.
Our story is similar. I saw the ad for our coach a few months before we were ready to buy, but since it was something we might be interested in, I called the seller and visited some. The coach did, indeed, sell before we were ready to buy, but suddenly it was back on the market at the time we were ready to buy. It seems that the purchaser backed out of the deal. We made an appointment to see the coach, liked it, made an offer, and a few weeks later we were driving it home. I actually had a list of several possible coaches, but since this one was the closest to us we went to see it first.
Congratulations, Jim. As we are now temporary residents of Oregon, it's good to see folks from here finding a coach that really seems to fit their needs and wants. Also, thanks for complimenting the members of RV Dreams as being good sources of information. More than once, I've steered folks here to learn about both the RV's and the RV lifestyle.
Good luck with all your plans and dreams.
Terry
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WOW, great read, great story, great ending, again WOW!!! I'm just started this adventure myself. Hope to find a 5ver out there with my name on it. Anyway, congratz!!! Jim
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