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Hello, my husband and myself are new to RVing, married 32 years, with grown children and 2 grandsons, looking to go full time (5th wheel)just husband and I! looking for input on 5th wheel of good quality, we have 2014 Ram 2500 4x4 diesel to pull 5th wheel (have not purchased 5th wheel yet). 2 people no pets, looking for 35- 40 foot range 5th wheel. Any advice would be great. Want to do our homework, to get a good fit with as few problems as possible.
I would find a good dealer that has represents multiple lines of RV's. You want a unbiased opinion. Example.. Drv, Landmark.. ect.. My opinion RVS4LESS in TN are the best in the business.
Go sit it some.. walk around. You can buy anywhere.
Figure out your weight limitations on on the truck.. It may or may not limit your choices.
Are you looking at new or used?
I am biased to DRV , redwood, and Landmark.. And no, they are not in the same class...to most folks..
-- Edited by The Junkman on Friday 18th of July 2014 11:19:27 AM
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First of all, welcome to the RV Dreams forum, where you will find a lot of knowledgeable folks that are willing to share and encourage as you do this process. So, feel free to ask questions as they come to mind.
As for your truck, unless you were only looking at at 32-foot DRV, a 3/4-ton truck "might" do the job. However, the DRV's at 36-feet and longer will need a much heavier truck, likely a F350/3500 series truck, and preferably a dually for stability. I'm not sure of the weight of the Landmark, so you already have some homework to do. What you need to do is go to a dealer for your 3/4-ton truck and have them give you GVWR (Gross Vehicular Weight Rating), the GCVW (Gross Combined Vehicular Weight) rating, and the GAWR (Gross Axle Weight Rating) based off of the information on the "data plate" found on either the door or the door frame on the driver's side.
After you have found that information, you need to take your truck with full fuel, passengers and pets, and any cargo that you plan to carry in the truck and get it weighed. Once you have the "practical" weight of your truck, subtract that weight from the GCVW of the truck to see how heavy of a trailer (the trailer's GVWR) you can safely tow. Safely towing means having the ability to handle the trailer in an emergency stopping situation and being able to withstand sudden gust of wind from the side. Most people like for there to be a safety "cushion" between what the GVWR of the trailer is and the weight capability of the truck.
Just as a cautionary note, I think you might find most trailers in the 35-40-foot range to be too heavy for a 3/4-ton truck, unless you are willing to get a light trailer that won't be capable of four-seasons RV'ing. Note that in my signature, we have a 38-foot DRV Mobile Suites and we pull it with a Ford F450, however, I know a lot of folks with DRV's tow them with F350/3500 series trucks.
Good luck with your research and planning, and it's glad to have you as part of the family.
Terry
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2010 Mobile Suites 38TKSB3 2008 Ford F450 2019 Ford Expedition Max as Tag-along or Scout
Post up your specs on the truck.. I and others will help you figure out what your truck can pull.. don't worry.. you have enough truck.
Some folks don't like the new RAM.. And they don't believe it can do what it can do..not sure why..
I bet your RAM will pull ANY 38 footer out there.. and most 40's..Including Landmark.
Need your transmission info, rear gear ratio, style.. crew cab.. etc.. and box length.. And I'll try and work the numbers.. no problem..
As to one RV versus another.. For me it was .. Frame design and weight, insulating factors, Options and customizing , Braking and safety, and of course, Cost. Overall quality is a factor, but not in the top 3..Only you can decide what the important stuff is.
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Firstly, welcome aboard, you'll find lots of knowledgeable types here, experienced too. Soon you will add yours to the mix so it's all good.
My data checking on Dodge SRW 3500( I have nothing on 2500's) , shows rear GAWR of 7000, base rear axle weight of 3030, base total truck weight of 8070 and CGVWR of 25000. Without loading the truck that leaves 16930 for a fully loaded trailer.... less by the time you add in passengers, gear, fifth wheeel hitch and so forth. That weight will reduce rear axle payload which even at base truck weight is 4040. A 36-40 DRV will certainly be close if not over whatever is available for the pin weight let alone total trailer weight. Do you really want to push the ability of the tow vehicle to the max? Do you really want to spend more on mechanical repairs due to making the truck work so hard? Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should. Consider what might happen if you have a rear tire blowout downhill on a curve. A dually just makes better sense. Dodge makes a great truck, but this isn't about Dodge, it's about the safety of DRW vs SRW. A SRW truck cannot handle what a DRW can handle with the same margin for safety. At the end of the day, isn't it safety that trumps all other factors?
I would consider lighter trailers for the 2500. If your heart is set on one the larger heavier rigs, consider going to a dually at a minimum.
JMHO FWIW
Brian
-- Edited by biggaRView on Saturday 19th of July 2014 04:37:17 PM
-- Edited by biggaRView on Saturday 19th of July 2014 05:32:44 PM
As a cautionary note, do not go by the manufacturer's "towing weight." Many times that is nothing more than a very rough estimate, by which one can begin to look at capabilities. We own a 2008 Ford F450 and information on it states that it can "tow" 24,600 lbs. I can guarantee that if I was pulling a trailer that was that heavy, I would probably be overweight on both the GCVW and the GAWR.
As Brian stated, this is a safety issue, not a "capability" issue.
Terry
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2010 Mobile Suites 38TKSB3 2008 Ford F450 2019 Ford Expedition Max as Tag-along or Scout
I realize you have your new home on wheels, but... When we pulled our 2006 Montana 3295RK with our Ford F350 SRW, it pulled great. Running from Mn to Tx occasionally, we averaged 11 mpg on a total trip, several times. If we had a stiff side wind, I would steer into the wind to stay straight on the road. September 2013 we traded the F350 SRW 152" WB for an F450 dually, 172" wheelbase. With in a month we had the chance to battle a 30+ mph side wind crossing the St Croix River from MN to WI. I let go of the steering wheel & it stayed straight. Granted, letting go of steering wheel is not necessarily safe but I wanted to prove a point to myself. Same trailer, 2 different trucks, and I am VERY pleased with the capability of the dually over a single rear wheel truck.
The reason I went with the F450 was the turning radius is much tighter than a F350 dually of the same wheelbase. Also, much larger brakes. We are very pleased with the truck, enough so that we are dealing on a new DRV 39RESB3. We, so far, experience 10.1 mpg with our current setup.
Welcome to the forum & good luck with your rig and hope to see you down the road.
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2015 Mobile Suites 39RESB3 - 2013 F450 King Ranch
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