Surge protectors - RV-Dreams Community Forum

MrG · RV-Dreams Family Member

Surge protectors

BiggarView · RV-Dreams Family Member

Just a guess, but the EMS-LCHW50 has built in display and the EMS-LCHW50c has a remote display

MrG · RV-Dreams Family Member

Okay, Thanks. That's what I thought, but wanted another opinion. I purchased one with the remote display but didn't get that product.

Terry and Jo · RV-Dreams Family Member

Open up your unit. We just received our Progressive Industries product today and was missing the phone line and the remote display. My son noticed a small piece of plastic at the edge of the crack between the lid and the unit. I took out the screws and the two items were inside of the power protector.

Terry

TRAILERKING · RV-Dreams Family Member

Terry and Jo wrote:
Open up your unit. We just received our Progressive Industries product today and was missing the phone line and the remote display. My son noticed a small piece of plastic at the edge of the crack between the lid and the unit. I took out the screws and the two items were inside of the power protector.
Terry

Yes Terry is right again. They have the lid screwed on with two screws and everything else is inside. That's the way mine was.

MrG · RV-Dreams Family Member

I checked and it was not there. I was shipped the wrong model number for the one with the remote. I'm trying to resolve the issue with the place I purchased it.

cherylbrv · RV-Dreams Family Member

Terry and Jo wrote:
Open up your unit. We just received our Progressive Industries product today and was missing the phone line and the remote display.
Terry

Ok, another example of all the stuff I don't know that I don't know.... phone line??? What does a phone line have to do with a surge protector?

Lucky Mike · RV-Dreams Family Member

well if you have a landline or cable from the park ....a voltage spike can enter your coach thru the ground connection.......passing thru the surge protector prevents this

TRAILERKING · RV-Dreams Family Member

cherylbrv wrote:
Terry and Jo wrote:
Open up your unit. We just received our Progressive Industries product today and was missing the phone line and the remote display.
Terry
Ok, another example of all the stuff I don't know that I don't know.... phone line??? What does a phone line have to do with a surge protector?

They use a phone cable extension to connect the remote to the surge protector. A lot of inverters use that same idea. As extension cables are plentiful.......Why reinvent the wheel? Use something that's already out there.

MrG · RV-Dreams Family Member

THe place I bought it from says yes, they did send the wrong model and overcharged me for what I got. (This model without the remote runs about 30 bucks less that the other) They will send out the correct one with a postage paid label for me to send them back the one I have now. smile

TRAILERKING · RV-Dreams Family Member

Just curious where you got yours from? I got mine from Dyers which was the cheapest deal I found.

MrG · RV-Dreams Family Member

Picked mine up here:

http://www.technorv.com/Default.asp

Bill and Linda · RV-Dreams Family Member

TRAILERKING wrote:
Ok, another example of all the stuff I don't know that I don't know.... phone line??? What does a phone line have to do with a surge protector?
They use a phone cable extension to connect the remote to the surge protector. A lot of inverters use that same idea. As extension cables are plentiful.......Why reinvent the wheel? Use something that's already out there.

If I am not mistaken this is NOT a phone line extension although it looks like one and uses the same style connector. In the past PI remote cable is not pin for pin compatible with a phone cable. So I wouldn't recommend using one to replace the other without verification. Naturally YMMV, things could change.

BTW, we all call these surge protectors, which they most certainly are, but for clarification the PI HW-50's / HW-30's (different types same point) do a great deal more than deal with surges. They are true power protection systems.

Glad people are catching on to this, IMO, must have device. It will save your rig someday. Can't say when, but it will.

bjoyce · RV-Dreams Family Member

RJ11 style connectors, phone connectors, come in different configurations and with different number of wires. Often phone extension cords only use two wires, but data connections can use 4 or 6 wires. They are commonly used to hook remote panels to inverters, solar charge controllers or any other electronic device like a surge suppressor. The wires are colored coded and the ends are clear so you can see the wiring order to make sure a replacement or extension cable will work. You can also get crimpers and crimped ends to make your own, but it is easy to mess up. I know, I have a crimper.

Ann and Steve · RV-Dreams Family Member

That phone line connects the electronics of the surge protector to its display for a wired display unit. It has nothing to do with any land-line, telephone system.

RickandJanice · RV-Dreams Family Member

Both Bills are correct in saying this cable is not wired the same as a phone cable. It uses the same connection and the same cable, but not the same wire pattern as a 4 wire phone extension cord. I tried to use a phone extension cord I had when the cable that Progressive sent was too short for my application and found the readout would not work with the phone cable. Just had to rewire one end of the cable so it matched the color pattern used by Progressive. This is easy to do as the plugs are clear so you can see the color pattern and as long as you already have the connections and a crimper tool (which I did from wiring our S&B phone lines many years ago). Or you can just call and request a longer cable from Progressive if you do not have a longer cable and /or want to mess with rewiring it.