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Angel Soft toilet paper warning!! For those of you who are not aware, Angel Soft toilet paper has changed to "Stronger and Softer design". What this means to us RV'rs is that it no longer breaks down in the holding tanks. We had heard about some people having issues but since we had not and the package still says it is septic safe, ignored what we had heard. Well yesterday, we also had our dump line stop up when dumping and had to back flush the line to get it loose. Si...nce we used a Camco back flush system with a gate valve on the end, we could hook a hose up with the gate valve closed and put back pressure on the stoppage to get it to break loose. Never actually saw the stoppage but when it broke free, allot of paper followed. We have had this same rig for almost 7 years and have used Angel Soft toilet paper for the past 10 years and never had this issue. So today we did the "toilet paper shake test" to see if Angel Soft would break down in a jar of water when shook for 5-10 seconds and it failed to break down. Apparently we have been lucky since they changed their design, until now. So we are switching to either Dollar General or Scott brand paper as both past the shake test and break down after as little as 3 seconds of shaking. Angel Soft is no longer an option for RV use, even though it still states "septic safe".
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Rick and Janice
2006 Mobile Suites 32TK3, Mor/Ryde King Pin and I.S., 17.5" Wheels w/ H Rated Tires, Automatic Level Up,
2012 Ford F450 Lariet, 6.7 L, CC, 4WD, DRW w/ Air Bags, Reese Signature 25K Hitch
We've been using Angel Soft with no issues. However, I looked and the package that we have does not state that it is "new." So, it might be that we will keep looking to see what they may do.
Terry
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Terry and Jo
2010 Mobile Suites 38TKSB3 2008 Ford F450 2019 Ford Expedition Max as Tag-along or Scout
You may be one of the lucky ones, like we were, that are still getting some of the old formulation that is left over somewhere. After this experience, though, you can bet I will be checking any brand we use on a regular basis to just make sure the formulation does not change.
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"Bloom where you are planted"
Rick and Janice
2006 Mobile Suites 32TK3, Mor/Ryde King Pin and I.S., 17.5" Wheels w/ H Rated Tires, Automatic Level Up,
2012 Ford F450 Lariet, 6.7 L, CC, 4WD, DRW w/ Air Bags, Reese Signature 25K Hitch
Many people go "eew..." at the European and South American solution - keep a small trash can with a plastic bag liner next to the toilet and drop your used paper, wipes, etc. in it. It is completely sanitary because you pull out the bag without touching the contents and, as long as you keep the bag closed, no odor. Having experienced places where the facilities are a hole on the floor with a spot to place your feet, we learned to adapt. This is not what you're used to but it certainly eliminates plumbing problems!
Ok, I did the shake test, but didn't do Angel Soft. I compared Kroger brand 1000 sheet, Scott's 1000 sheet, Thetford RV, and Kirkland toilet paper. The Kroger brand (which said on the package "septic safe" and "disintegrates fast") won by a landslide. It disintegrated INSTANTLY. The Scott's was a close second. The Theford--made for RV's and boats--was a surprising 3rd. The Kirkland, which we use all the time in the S&B took HOURS to disintegrate (like a whole day long). So I'm thinking Kroger or Scotts are a safe bet.
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Jo & Ben
2014 Arctic Fox 32-5M 5th wheel pulled by a 2014 Ford F350 DRW
Many people go "eew..." at the European and South American solution - keep a small trash can with a plastic bag liner next to the toilet and drop your used paper, wipes, etc. in it. It is completely sanitary because you pull out the bag without touching the contents and, as long as you keep the bag closed, no odor.
OK, Linda said to say this so don’t take this as a man’s suggestion: If this is done for the female #1 at the least it will make a huge difference. This procedure by the ladies has been going on for a long time in the RV world. We learned it from my extremely proper, fulltime RVing mother over 30 years ago.Just no one ever discusses it. Naturally YMMV.
With regards to Charmin, be sure and check the documentation with your toilet. The Dometic that we have in ours specifies to NOT use one of the Charmin types. For the moment, I just don't remember which "type" of Charmin they said not to use. But our experience has been that Jo prefers the Angel Soft over the Scotts. The Scotts is just about too thin, leading to the need to use more sheets.
Terry
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Terry and Jo
2010 Mobile Suites 38TKSB3 2008 Ford F450 2019 Ford Expedition Max as Tag-along or Scout
Just a new observation. We have found that by using the single ply Scott T.P. that we do use more sheets since it is thinner. However, there are also 2X - 3X more sheets on the roll so overall volume of paper per roll is really about the same or slightly more. We are actually finding the rolls to last allot longer. Not really sure if it is because that with the tighter wrap of the single ply allowing for higher volume of paper on the roll or the visual trick that single ply plays on the mind of looking like more paper as it unrolls and we are therefor actually using less. Could be a combination of both. I feel that as typical Americans, we do tend to be quite wasteful with certain thing at times and T.P. seems to be one of those items, at least for us.
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"Bloom where you are planted"
Rick and Janice
2006 Mobile Suites 32TK3, Mor/Ryde King Pin and I.S., 17.5" Wheels w/ H Rated Tires, Automatic Level Up,
2012 Ford F450 Lariet, 6.7 L, CC, 4WD, DRW w/ Air Bags, Reese Signature 25K Hitch
Many people go "eew..." at the European and South American solution - keep a small trash can with a plastic bag liner next to the toilet and drop your used paper, wipes, etc. in it. It is completely sanitary because you pull out the bag without touching the contents and, as long as you keep the bag closed, no odor. Having experienced places where the facilities are a hole on the floor with a spot to place your feet, we learned to adapt. This is not what you're used to but it certainly eliminates plumbing problems!
I don't have a problem with going "green", saving trees, conserving water, lowering my thermostat, reducing carbon emissions, or driving a hybrid. But, regardless of it being sanitary or eliminating plumbing problems, I absolutely draw the line at putting TP in a trash can after use. One might as well have an outhouse in their RV. While in the military, I used a "slit trench" to do my business. I didn't much care for that either.
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Many people go "eew..." at the European and South American solution - keep a small trash can with a plastic bag liner next to the toilet and drop your used paper, wipes, etc. in it. It is completely sanitary because you pull out the bag without touching the contents and, as long as you keep the bag closed, no odor. Having experienced places where the facilities are a hole on the floor with a spot to place your feet, we learned to adapt. This is not what you're used to but it certainly eliminates plumbing problems!
I don't have a problem with going "green", saving trees, conserving water, lowering my thermostat, reducing carbon emissions, or driving a hybrid. But, regardless of it being sanitary or eliminating plumbing problems, I absolutely draw the line at putting TP in a trash can after use. One might as well have an outhouse in their RV. While in the military, I used a "slit trench" to do my business. I didn't much care for that either.