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Post Info TOPIC: Best vehicle to tow trailer 10,500 GVWR


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Best vehicle to tow trailer 10,500 GVWR


I would prefer to have a truck rated for 12,500 GVWR for safety. I've never owned a full size truck in my life, but just in looking at some of the Trailer Life towing guides I'm starting to discover that I need either a heavy 3/4 ton or even a 1-ton.

A friend of mine told me that the cheapest route would be to go with a Ford diesel 3/4 ton with something called a "bulletproof" kit already installed, or a GMC truck made after 2009.

I need something that I can hitch up and haul days in a row if need be. Won't be RVing fulltime, but when retirement comes I hope to be Rving most of the time.

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Marc



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Cold, select the RV first. Then match an appropriate TV.

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Already did.
2017 Coachmen Catalina Legacy 35 footer Approximate dry weight: 8500. Approximate GVWR: 10,500

Thanks.

Marc

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I'll let the 5er gals and guys get specific but I'm not sure a 3/4 is enough truck.

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Figure out the pin and tow weight…then look at the actual loaded weight of truck  by itself (250/350/450/etc) and run the numbers.l Offhand I would think a 350/3500 would be sufficient but without doing the math it's not possible to give you a correct answer.

 

 



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Larry,

What is a "5er"?

You're point is valid. A 3/4 ton may not be enough.

Marc



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"A friend of mine told me that the cheapest route would be to go with a Ford diesel 3/4 ton with something called a "bulletproof" kit already installed". "

Ask your friend if he will pay when the "bulletproof" engine tales a dump?

Most any newer 250/2500 will carry the load of a 10,500# actual weight of a 5er.

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Ok.....a 5er is a 5th wheel trailer. (I finally figured that one out!)
Our original budget was $35,000 for both trailer and truck. Guaranteed to go over with the price of the trailer around $27K. We were trying to purchase a used truck in good condition to save money. That's how the subject of a bulletproof Ford came up.
Thank you for the input.

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Marc, my shorthand for a fifth wheel trailer. I should be more clear...I agree.

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Marc, it looks like you are looking at a travel trailer, not a 5'er. That means that 10-15% of the GROSS vehicle weight rating (gross weight from here on out) will be on the hitch. In your case, you are looking at 1,000-1,500 pounds hitch weight PLUS the weight of the hitch. Most F250-class trucks can handle that. The problem comes when you load that big empty bed with a couple of motorcycles, a big tool box, a smoker, and the St. Bernard. Add in a few cases of beer and a couple of bags of dog food and you can get over the truck's rear axle weight rating in a big hurry.

One thing you can do is figure out the weight of all of the stuff that will be in the truck when you hit the road. That includes you, your wife, the kids, the dog, etc. Then go find a truck that is as close as possible to what you want, fill the fuel tank (sales people will love that part), and head for the nearest CAT scale. Weigh the truck with each axle on a separate pad. If you weighed with anyone in the truck that will be on your camping trips you don't have to add their weight again, but otherwise add to the rear axle weight the weight of all of the people and stuff that will be in the truck. Then add the 1500 pounds of hitch weight. Still under the rear axle weight rating? If not, either get a bigger truck or take less stuff.

Be sure to leave a safety margin. For example, if the rear axle weight rating is 7500 pounds, and you are at 7499 pounds, you are technically legal, but you don't have much of a margin. If your rating is 7500 pounds and you are at 6500 pounds you are in much better shape as there will be less stress on the rear suspension system.

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Do yourself a favor and buy a 3500.........it will save yourself a lot of time and trouble in the long run.....stay away from Ford 6.0,Ford 6.4...troublesome....and get an 8ft bed,longer wheelbase is more stable///



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Do yourself a favor and buy a 3500.........it will save yourself a lot of time and trouble in the long run.....stay away from Ford 6.0,Ford 6.4...troublesome....and get an 8ft bed,longer wheelbase is more stable///


 You seem to have a great deal of knowledge of how bad the Ford engines are.  Perhaps my 2008 Ford F450 with the 6.4 should be learning from you?

Or, is your knowledge of engines based on what you read on truck forums?

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Ford 6.0 and 6.4s keep me in business.....



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can not buy a better truck than the 3500 silverado duramax general motors truck   buy 4x4 even if u don't need it 



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The most important factor in selecting a used truck is the care it has received and the condition it is in. Ignore the “brand fans” ... that is a blonde, brunette, red head discussion ... you like what you like, so buy that. All of the big 3 have become very good trucks of late and all had “issues” in the the past. If you can swing a newer truck (say 2015 or newer) you’ll get an exhaust brake which is a valuable tool when towing in the mountains. Good Luck with your search.

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RonC wrote:

The most important factor in selecting a used truck is the care it has received and the condition it is in. Ignore the “brand fans” ... that is a blonde, brunette, red head discussion ... you like what you like, so buy that. All of the big 3 have become very good trucks of late and all had “issues” in the the past. If you can swing a newer truck (say 2015 or newer) you’ll get an exhaust brake which is a valuable tool when towing in the mountains. Good Luck with your search.


 what I would recommend ; don't buy something because u simply like it ;;research it and make sure theres no factory defects make sure its the right gear ratio makes sure its the engine that will do the job make sure it has the options u want and need; correct GVWR  etc etc    don't ever buy it simply because you like it 



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Or because it’s a RAM or a Ford or A Chevy. You missed the point.

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RonC wrote:

Or because it’s a RAM or a Ford or A Chevy. You missed the point.


 never missed a thing u missed the point don't buy something based on as you said ""buy it if you like like it""



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Oops ... missed it again!

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OK... I’ll go slower for you ... it doesn’t matter what brand it is, it matters what condition it is in. A well cared for Ford 6.0 is better than an abused Cummins or Duramax. Brand only matters if all other things are equal. That is the problem with fan boys ... the obvious is ignored.

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This is fun 😜

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hostage wrote:

can not buy a better truck than the 3500 silverado duramax general motors truck   buy 4x4 even if u don't need it 


 as said   can not buy a better truck than a 3500 series general motors duramax 4x4  dually 



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There are some new participants here that would benefit by going to the top of the main page and reading the rules and guidelines.

Unlike many other forums, whether they be related to tow vehicles or RV's, we try to have relevant and respectful dialogue within the discussions.  One's opinion of one brand or another is always subjective, so no matter how much one likes their "brand," kindly respect the others who might disagree.

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