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Bicycle Rack for rear of 5th Wheel? Any recommendations/suggestions/ideas


I'm looking for a rack to fit the 2" receiver on the rear of my 5th wheel. I don't need to carry more than 2 bikes. Prefer a rack that will accommodate a man's and woman's bike. Several I've read about do not work well with frames that have a sloped top tube.

Any input is going to be helpful.

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Swagman XTC2

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Thank you that is one brand I am considering.

Appreciate the help.



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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Swagman XTC2


X2 ^^. Swagman has two models that are RV "certified," meaning they can withstand the forces at the back of an RV. Just make sure to mount the bike rack on a frame-mounted receiver - not a clamp-on receiver bolted to a bumper. Those are a good way to drag your bikes down the road on the asphalt.

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I got this Thule from Amazon…been on the rear of the rig with 2 bikes all the way to Alaska and back with no issues. I carry my road bike and my wife's hybrid quite nicely.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000CQ47H4/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

if you want a cover…get one without zippers as they do tend to get dust into their teeth and the zippers are plastic and not of the highest quality. I started with a zippered one and moved on to this one instead. I just put a couple of bungees around it to hold down on the flapping…but then I did that with the zippered one I had before as well.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01C7JM7CU/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've often wondered about that whole RV-certified thing. Assuming you get a carrier that fits into a regular frame mounted receiver and not one that attaches to the bumper…then as a recovering engineer I think that RV-certified is a load of hooey. The bike rack doesn't know whether the receiver it's mounted on is attached to the frame of a car/truck or the frame of an RV…and if it's not safe to attach to an RV receiver then it's not safe to attach to a receiver on a car/truck either. I've seen the claims that it "bounces more" on the back of an RV and found that the rear of our RV doesn't bounce any more than a car does. There isn't much difference…if any…in the forces that the bike/rack combination put on the receiver on the back of the rig and those on the receiver on the back of a car/truck.

We do have a 2 inch receiver on our rig…I would suggest one of those rather than the smaller ones.



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Neil,

Thanks for the valuable information and links. If you would give me an email address or phone to text to, I'd

like to send you some photos of where and how it will be attached and get an engineer's opinion about the set up.

Thank You,

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Thank you for the information. I was not aware there were "RV approved" racks. I've read several comments about Swagman mounts and some are not very favorable.

I don't want to spend a fortune to carry the bike however, I want a mount that will not allow the bike to fall off either. 

The 5th Wheel has a frame mounted receiver. The original bumper was removed and replaced with 4" sq. tubing with .250 wall thickness. A custom cargo carrier was made to 

go into the 2" receiver and is also supported at both ends with 2" sq tubing. Another 2" receiver was mounted on the rear of the cargo carrier just for a bike rack. I've got some 

pictures but not sure hot to post them here.

Thanks Again for the help.

Eric



-- Edited by ka0dqz on Tuesday 21st of February 2017 08:02:31 PM

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We have had 2 bike rack failures on the back of our 5th wheel using "RV" approved racks, one Rola and one Swagman. Rola reimbursed us the cost of their rack and paid us $250 to fix the damage to our bikes. We then bought a Swagman - sorry don't remember the model but it cost about $200 - and when it failed, then sent us a new heftier one - the one that costs about $300 - and sent a check for $1000 to replace the bikes, which were a total loss after being dragged for many many miles on the Tok Cutoff in AK.

What Bill came to realize is the biggest problem we had was the hitch - the bar that the receiver is attached to was not strong enough and allowed too much bounce and we now believe that's what caused (at least contributed to) the failures.

Bill had extra pieces of square tubing (1/4") welded to the hitch to strengthen it - and uses an anti-rattle clip where the rack sits in the receiver, which helps there.

So - I would recommend checking the hitch itself and determine if it is hefty enough. Our original hitch was rated for up to 150 pounds and we never had more than 110 on it.

Good luck in your decision.

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Bill & Kelly,

Thank you very much for the information. I was looking at the Swagman XTC2 at a local shop last week and the 1 1/4" bar seemed to be a weak spot to me.

The hitch on the 5th wheel is rated for several thousand pounds. Right now I only have 1 bike to carry. The XTC 2 seems to be a heavier duty version of another 

carrier by Swagman. It supports both wheels and has down pressure on the top tube. It seems like almost every brand has had failures that caused bikes to be destroyed.

Makes the choice very difficult.

Thanks again

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ka0dqz wrote:
... It seems like almost every brand has had failures that caused bikes to be destroyed.

Makes the choice very difficult.

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If it is helpful we purchased a Thule's hitch mounted bike rack in 2003 (pre-RVing) and it is still going strong (i.e., we are using it on the RV). The following is a link to Thule's current hitch mounted offerings: https://www.thule.com/en-us/us/bike-rack/hitch-bike-racks?q=MTDWKcuqv

 



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Lynn & Ed,

Thank you for the information. Is the model you have still in production? 

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Lynn & Ed,

Thank you for the information. Is the model you have still in production? 

Eric


Eric,

Our specific rack is no longer made, looking at pictures on Thule's website it looks most similar to the Vertex. I would assume any of their bike rack would be good, based upon our past experience.

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Thank you Lynn. This information will help.

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Sent you a PM with contact info.

 



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We ordered -Swagman Bicycle Carriers Chinook 2 Carrier Platform Hitch Rack - from Amazon. We love how it adjusts to any size bike and locks both bikes on the rack as well as a lock on the hitch.  The tires ride on a quarter shelf which make the whole rack more stable. We would order again. 



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Decided to go with the Swagman Dispatch model after talking to them on the phone. All the previous racks will work fine, as long as you go with the 2" base mount and watch the weight ratings. This was the reason I called, since their website states the Dispatch model is rated for 45 lbs. / bike and Amazon stated 35/bike for the same model. A lot of the other models are rated for 35 lbs / bike. My bike, and my wife's bike, weigh 35 lbs. each. We both have heavy "Cruiser" style bikes. I guess having an RV has made me pay more attention when it comes to weight ratings!

www.swagman.net/products/rv-racks/

Did you ever notice how we all seem to go "full circle" as we age? We are very young and start with a trike, then we get older and get the 2 wheel (back in my day it was the banana bike), then the cruiser bike, then the racing style bikes, mountain bikes, hybrids, and then back to a cruiser bike, and then the trike again. LOL.

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There's bicycles and there's bicycles. Most RVers idea of a bicycle weights 30 to 35 pounds each...including basket, horn, fenders and water bottle. What is the rating on this 2 inch receiver?



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It's a std 2" receiver, so it should have a tongue weight of 5,000lb



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"It's a stardard 2" receiver, so it should have a tongue weight of..."

Famous last words of a famous old RVer.

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There's bicycles and there's bicycles. Most RVers idea of a bicycle weights 30 to 35 pounds each...including basket, horn, fenders and water bottle. What is the rating on this 2 inch receiver?



-- Edited by LarryW21 on Wednesday 26th of April 2017 06:45:42 PM


 Good one! LOL  The receiver isn't ever the issue. It's the 1"1/4 reduced box tubing they use for the rack on most bike racks. Either the place where the vertical tube attaches or the horizontal length breaks. 

 

The Swagman "Dispatch" is a 2" box steel and rated for 45 lbs per bike and it is a 2 bike - rack. We will see if it lasts. Only time will tell....



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I was looking at the Swagman XTC2 and that was my concern. The 1 1/4 hollow tubing and the 2" adapter. 

I decided that a 2" tube was what is needed. So I was considering the S64663 platform mount but, I don't

need that bumper adapter and that rack can't be ordered without it. 

I'll need to look more closely at the dispatch.

Another thought was to replace the 2" hollow tube with a piece of 2" solid steel.

Thank you for the information

 



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