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I'm eager to leave California behind, and hit the road... don't get me wrong, California has a lot going for it, but I'm burnt on taxes, prices, restrictions and regulations.
I've heard South Dakota is a full time RV haven. Is anyone using S.D. mail services, have a S.D. driver's licence, spend time there? Please educate me on all things South Dakota!
2004 Fleetwood Fiesta 26Q Class A
Use the "Search" function in the blue bar above and type in "South Dakota." That will get you a lot of information about residency and mail services.
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Kev & Vi
2011 Heartland Big Horn 3670RL, 2012 RAM 3500
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I'm also domiciled out of Florida; use American Home Base mailbox which give me an actual street address. I renewed my Tag in July by mail cost 78.00 for the year; also my new drivers license cost 48.00; which is now good until the year 2020. There is no state income tax and the sales tax is 7.5 & as of 2010; the last I was there. No vehicle inspection. My Motorhome insurance is reasonable as well as the tag fees; it cost me more when I first registered from another state, but I believe they go by weight instead of the year. Have the DMV mail you a handbook for more info on that. As we all no things can change in the blink of an eye. PIEERE
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Currently at Shady Acres RV Park Lebanon; Tennessee
Thanks for all the answers. Kev and Vi, to do the residency, do you just need to open a mailbox, or actually go there? I'm sort of going short notice, but it occurred to me, if I could do residency Jan. 1, it would make next year's taxes easier, without California tracking me down and pro-rating. Going there in January, brrr! I'm a Cal/Az gal!As far as Florida, I was doing mail forwarding from American Home Base last year, I guess I could do Florida, but which is easier? I may actually go to SD since it is in the West, probably never to FL, and I like the "concept" of SD better. If I'm going to be a "resident", it might feel more ethical to actually be there once in a while. Maybe Monday, I'll call American Home Base, though, to see about Florida.
NH is tough to claim Residency......I am based out of NH and you must prove physical Residence.... by way of property tax bill or Rental/ utility.......in NH all registrations are issued by the town office you Reside in... Registrations are only valid 1 yr......lic is valid up to 10 depending on residency
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America's Mailbox in Box Elder is who we use. As others have said; the only thing you need to actually be there for is drivers license and you have to spend one night in the county to do that. Then you're good for 5 years and they will renew your license (I've been told) 6 months early or late to handle not being there. Everything else you can be done remotely; usually the mailing service will handle it for you as it's easier to walk up and register the car than do all by mail. Obviously insurance, taxes and all other stuff needs to be taken into account but since you're coming from CA I'm guessing you'll save money.
One other general question to throw in here that may be related to one's decision to domicile in another state. In some states, vehicles that are registered from out of state are also subject to being charged an "excise tax" for that state, even if the vehicle was purchased in another state. That may also apply to RV's as well as tow vehicles and toads.
When we purchased our Mobile Suites, the excise tax here in Oklahoma was around $3000. When we finally get to travel and need to domicile elsewhere, I certainly hope to not be double-taxed.
2009 36 MAX1 Carrilite
Alie & Jim
Sallie- 4 legged lab
Tabitha & Brooke -other furballs
FullTiming since March 2013
We are now proud SD residents. We did a lot of research and found that SD was the best fit for us as they along with Texas are one of the last two states that do not require you to own, rent or lease real property to establish residency (a lot has to do with the Patriot and REAL ID Act). We used Alternative Resources in Sioux Falls to pretty much do all the upfront work. Once we sold our home, we first started by starting the mail forwarding and registering and insuring our vehicles about one week before we made our trip to SD to finish the process. This meant that we got our SD drivers licenses, registered to vote and opened up a bank account in Sioux Falls. The process was seamless and Alternative Resources http://www.alternativeresources.net/ was great thru the whole process!
Once back on the east coast (we are fixed based for a bit while I continue to work FT) we systematically closed all other bank accounts, etc. that were located in NJ, completely severing ties with anything that could be construed as a connection to the state. Our accountants recommended this as this will show that you have no intention of returning and have established a "domicile" else where. All of our banking is done online along with any other former paper type accounts.
Every state is unique and we have heard and seen horror stories of folks be accused by the state tax man that they are still residents and owe back taxes. The key to to demonstrate that you have no "personal ties" to your former state. If you continue to own property, etc. in your former state there is always the possibility that they may try and come after you and then you have a big bill to defend your decisions and lifestyle.
Also to answer Jims question, SD does not require you to have a Class A non-CDL for your RV.
Hope this helps ya'll!
Les and Sue
"CHARACTER is doing the right thing when no one is looking"
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Jims carrilite wrote:Does South Dakota require Class A non-cdl for RV'ers?My truck and 5'er will have a combined GVWR of over 26001. Truck is 9200, new camper is 17500.I currently have a class A non CDL for North Carolina, but its more for work than personal.
Does South Dakota require Class A non-cdl for RV'ers?My truck and 5'er will have a combined GVWR of over 26001. Truck is 9200, new camper is 17500.I currently have a class A non CDL for North Carolina, but its more for work than personal.
When we went to get our SD DL, the only things we needed were our old DL from the state we were moving from, our passport and proof that we stayed at the RV campground or a hotel for at least one night to which we also signed an affidavit stating that we are full time RV'ers and we will be returning to SD in the future. If you do not have a passport then you will need an original birth certificate, etc. to prove who you are.
The whole process took about an hour because of the line but otherwise pretty smooth.
After getting our DL we went downstairs and registered to vote.
Yesterday while at Quartzsite looking for a campground for January we inquired about getting our mail delivered there and the woman told us America's mailbox just had an office open. We went over and were delighted to meet the owner Dan and his wife Barb. I had no idea who I was talking to then he introduced himself and I responded #4408. They were happy to answer questions for me as we have not registered my vehicles there yet or been there to get our drivers license. They do all the work for you as far as the vehicles you just need to be there for your license. He said that you could call anytime and the people there would be happy to answer any and all questions you might have. So, while in Q we found that we will be able to get our mail delivered, plus we made new friends.
37' 2002 Damon Intruder
Sadly, I have no passport, never could afford international travel, and my birth certificate has a different name than my California driver's license, due to that brief marriage, which I don't have proof of. I may have to swing through Phoenix on my way to South Dakota, and try and get some paperwork. Wouldn't that be a nightmare? To be stuck for the rest of my life, with California residency?
I can definitely empathize with your situtation. I started going by the name Caryn when I was 14. My parents' attorney assured me I didn't have to change it legally, just make sure I used it on everything and don't switch back and forth. It was never a problem for almost 40 years. (Of course this was pre- 9-11 and identity theft etc) Everything has always said Caryn: my driver's licenses in several states, marraige license, divorce papers, social security card, deeds and titles, everything. However, when I went to get a passport several years ago I needed a certified copy of my birth certificate from the state of MN, (I was a MN resident at the time) and they wouldn't give me one! Said my DL didn't match the name on the BC. So basically, since you need a certified copy of the BC to get a driver's license in every state that I know of in order to change residency, the state of MN was holding me hostage! I finally went to court this past March and legally changed my name to Caryn and had the birth record ammended so my birth certificate now says Caryn as well.
My attorney joked with me that I hadn't really existed for those 40 years.... The person on the birth certificate disappeared without a trace in 1974, and there was no record of Caryn having been born!
I'm happily a SD resident again (I grew up there and still have family there so it made the most sense for me) and used Alternative Resources for the mail forwarding and they were great to walk me through the steps for all the paperwork etc.
It might be easier than trying to round up everything you would need to document the name changes and dealing with several states' bureaucracy to do that.
When I got my SD DL I just had the new birth cert and my current MN DL, didn't show any of the name changes (marraige/divorce) at all since the name was the same on both.
Already called Arizona, and they will be sending me a certified copy from the name change from 30 years ago. It's a good thing to have, in this day and age. P.S. Cool caboose! Lotta work, hope you have time and money! An old timey 1890's interior would be cool!
FT - July 2013
2010 38TKSB3 DRV Mobile Suites
2012 Ford F450
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Although we have not gone through the loan process yet, our mail forwarding service, Alternative Resources http://www.alternativeresources.net/ in Sioux Falls has noted that the local bank, Liberty National Bank https://www.libertynationalonline.com/index.htm is RV/ Fulltimer friendly and knows and understands the SD residency process and you might say is more in tune with our needs. We plan on visiting them in the spring to open an account, etc. so that we are also customers when it comes time for a new RV loan.
Hope this helps. Keep us informed as to how you make out.
Clay (WA5NMR), Lee (wife), Katie, Kelli (cats) Full timed for eleven years in a 2004 Sightseer 35N. Snowbirds for one winter and now settled down in CO.
Most banking reform with regard to opening accounts and addresses happened after and because of 9-11. I was told this when I opened an account long before the mortgage mess. Many things have changed because of the actions a few knot heads.
Bill & Dana S.
1998 Dodge ram 3500
1998 terry 36' fifth wheel
1989 wilderness 33' bumper pull summer rig
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Glenda, I'm dealing with the same name change thing; waiting on AZ to send me 30 year old name change papers. Maybe we should put out the word, post 9/11, gals, don't change your name when you get married!
We made our resideance in SD back in June of this year, 2012. We use Americas Mailbox in Box Elder which is very close to Rapid City. The main reason for us to use Box Eleder was the fact that Pennington county where Box Elder is doesn't have any extra wheel tax when registering our vehicles. As for banks, we have not had any problems. However, we have not tried to get any loans either. Our existing credit cards with Bank of America, Chase, CityBank, AMX, and Capital One were fine with us just chaging our adress to the Box Elder Address.
Full Time Since August 4, 2012
2008 F-450 King Ranch 4x4 crew cab DRW
2013 Sanibel 3500 5er
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WestWardHo wrote:Loretta,As current AZ residents planning to go full time and planning on SD residency, we've been following this thread fairly closely. We live in a different county but I would warn you about AZ tag and insurance costs. They are quite high in AZ. Higher than OH & Mass for comparisons. Not sure about income taxes here either. Think they tax SS and military retirement income.For what it's worth. Please check yourself.Sherry
Loretta,As current AZ residents planning to go full time and planning on SD residency, we've been following this thread fairly closely. We live in a different county but I would warn you about AZ tag and insurance costs. They are quite high in AZ. Higher than OH & Mass for comparisons. Not sure about income taxes here either. Think they tax SS and military retirement income.For what it's worth. Please check yourself.Sherry
Our vehichles are currently registered in NJ. That is where we bought the RV and where I lived prior to becoming full time. We hope to make it to SD by spring to do all the updating.
Richard & Ginny, travel with Buster,our Schnauzer boy. 2010 Ford Lariat PSD;2011 Open Range 345 RLS, 5th wheel."Not all who wander are lost".
Good to hear a fellow Jerseyan using SD as a domicile. Makes us even more confident our choice of SD is the best for us once we become full-timers.
Ken & Marianne
2000 Holiday Rambler Alumascape 34SKT 5th Wheel2002 Ford F350 Crew Cab Dually
Thanks Ken. We are in the process now so when it is all done I will let you know how we make out. I need to get the car done first before we get there because the registration is due the end of this month. The office is very helpful with all the paperwork. I did find it odd though that you do not need proof of insurance to get your vehicles registered nor a SD drivers license. We do have insurance and the DL we'll get in a month or so when we finally get there.