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Replacing Truck Tires


We have a 2016 Ram 3500 DRW with 22,000 miles, and the front tires show considerable wear on the outside.  We are researching replacement tires and would like to know what tires others are successfully using -and where to purchase.  We tow an 18,000 pound Heartland Landmark 5th wheel.  We are looking for a very good quality tire.  Your thoughts and recommendations are appreciated.

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Just my opinion, but I would stick with the big 3 Goodyear, Bridgestone, or Michelin. If you can find a deal on Continental I would also look at them, but the issue is the wide spread availability isn’t as great compared to the big three.

You will get a number of opinions from the different camps, those that are die hard brand users. Having been in the tire business in excess of 35+ yrs, plus having worked for all three big manufacturers and as an independent dealer my preference is only driven by the fact as a retiree of Goodyear I get a decent discount on Goodyear brand tires. There isn’t too much difference between tires like it was years ago (going way, way back when they were built more by hand).

The biggest difference now is in tread design and compounding. Michelin usually hangs thier hat on long mileage, but the trade off is wet and cool traction. (I’m not a big Michelin fan so keep that in mind, lots of reasons and too long to write out). Bridgestone makes a very competent tire, as does Goodyear.

The key is tire maintenance. If you tow 50% and drive the other unloaded it will be difficult to maximize mileage. If you utilize the truck mainly for towing I would search out an alignment shop that can (and would be willing) to perform an alignment with the trailer hooked up to the truck. This would get the alignment as close to specs which would provide you with the best tire mileage. Also depending on your wheels if you can rotate the tires that will also help maximize your tire life.

Keep in mind my assumption is you know all your weights (each wheel position is best) by axle, loaded and unloaded. And that your air pressure is set correctly to the weight the axle is carrying.

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Frank ... 22,000 miles seems a little low and wear on the outside indicates too much toe in. I'm not a RAM guy, but several who are have mentioned that the toe in as factory set is a little aggressive and that a bit less will improve your tire wear without disturbing your normal straight ahead tracking (too little toe in will result in "wander"). Cummins has the same truck as you and he will likely chime in soon and is knowledgeable on this topic.

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I have LOTS of experience in this arena. My 2011 RAM Dually had general POS tires that has a front tire separation at 25K so I went with MS2's. At 40K they looked great at time of trade. I only rotate the fronts with keeping the wheel in the same position and tires side to side with rotation the same.

The trick to good tire wear is ALWAYS run 80psi on the fronts and 35 unloaded rear and 65 loaded rear. The other thing is the OE toe spec is 1/4" that is to keep the truck tracking straight. My alignment guy I have used since the late 70's said that is why the outer edges are stepping. He adjusted the front to 1/32-1/64" toe and my stepping woes went away.

I installed MS2's on current 15 RAM Dually at 200 miles. They were worn out at 40K and they gave me back a pro rated $106 per tire to spend anyway I wanted. I figured I would give them a try since I have had AWESOME tire wear using Michelins for over 500K. So at 12K the Defenders look awesome.

I would HIGHLY recommend the Defenders they have a quiet ride and great wet traction along with great wear.



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There's an 80 - 90% recommendation rate for the Michelin Defender series on the other two RV forums I spend time on. My brother-in-law (I call him a "New Mexico veterinarian/farmer/RVer/truck guy) won't put anything else on his truck, either. He says they are the only ones he can get miles out of. He has never complained about traction, etc., and says they are very quiet on the highway (though most of his RVing is off-road in NM and CO). We are due for new rubber based on age (tires - not mine) and will be getting Defenders when we get to Las Cruces next week.

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Just so people have a comparison. I paid $1,278 out the door for the MS2's in 2015 at Discount tires. The Defenders not sure since I had a $106 per tire credit.

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Got about 6500 miles on our 2018 RAM 3500, still running the Korean Nexen tires that came on it, so far so good.

Will replace with Michelin when needed, replaced the Michelin's that came on my previous GMC 3500 truck with Firestone Transforce, big mistake !!

The Firestone's wore well but rode horrible, never smooth.



-- Edited by Rob_Fla on Tuesday 13th of February 2018 08:04:15 PM

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Rob_Fla wrote:

Got about 6500 miles on our 2018 RAM 3500, still running the Korean Nexen tires that came on it, so far so good.

Will replace with Michelin when needed, replaced the Michelin's that came on my previous GMC 3500 truck with Firestone Transforce, big mistake !!

The Firestone's wore well but rode horrible, never smooth.



-- Edited by Rob_Fla on Tuesday 13th of February 2018 08:04:15 PM


 Go look at your front tires I will bet then outer edges are stepped.



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Thanks to everyone for the tire information.  Typically, where do you purchase and where do you have tires installed?  Can a local Goodyear shop handle a job like this on a 3500?



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I found great service and the best pricing at Discount Tire for the Michelin Defender.

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Thanks Cummins



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My towing truck currently runs Open Country AT2. These toyo tires are solid and wearing well. They are quiet and smooth on the highway. Some of my friends have Cooper and BFG, and haven't heard any complaints from them.



-- Edited by dovenson on Thursday 1st of March 2018 08:15:18 PM

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Speaking of tires…anybody know what the difference between Continental HSR and HSL Eco Plus is…other than the cross grooves on the latter look a little narrower in the pictures on the continental site? I need new front tires for my 5500HD and both of these are listed as steer axle…HSR is listed as Heavy Steer Regional on their site and HSL Eco Plus as listed as fuel efficient long haul steer.

I can get the HSRs from the RAM dealer but they'll cost more than Tire Kingdom and they will have to order them as. they don't keep them in parts…the HSL Eco Plus are in stock at the local truck tire Tire Kingdom branch.

From review of the info on both at the Continental site the HSLs look fine…they're listed as road use steer tires and the HSRs are listed as road or off road steer usage…and we generally stay on the road with the rig

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-- Edited by Neil and Connie on Friday 2nd of March 2018 08:58:44 AM

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The difference between a “long haul” and “regional” are generally in the tread compounding AND the sidewall. As long haul typically is heading straight down the highway for the most part the compounding is designed for longer mileage and ride. The regional is compounded to fight scrubbing from frequent turns, along with the sidewalls beefed up to help protect them from rubbing on curbs. Usually the wet weather traction is a little better with the long haul as the tread compound and siping is designed as such.

Every manufacturer is a little different, but this usually a good rule of thumb in the difference.

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Rickl wrote:

The difference between a “long haul” and “regional” are generally in the tread compounding AND the sidewall. As long haul typically is heading straight down the highway for the most part the compounding is designed for longer mileage and ride. The regional is compounded to fight scrubbing from frequent turns, along with the sidewalls beefed up to help protect them from rubbing on curbs. Usually the wet weather traction is a little better with the long haul as the tread compound and siping is designed as such.

Every manufacturer is a little different, but this usually a good rule of thumb in the difference.


 Guess I need to stay with the regional then…as we're on and off the highway with getting to campgrounds and such. I figured there was a difference…just didn't know what it was.



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Keep in mind frequent turning applies to tractor trailers pulling max loads doing pickup and deliveries everyday. Not as much as pickup and delivery applications (much like city buses) but they are still doing quite a bit. Think of a food or beverage hauler from the warehouse to a distribution location where a delivery truck (P&D) would finish the process.

My opinion (and where I would go) is a long haul (HSL) tire. While you do some turning it’s not near as much as a regional carrier would do. Again, just my opinion.

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I like my Coopers,been running on my Ram 3500 for awhile now...



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